TN Cops to Draw Blood at Labor Day Weekend ‘No Refusal’ DUI Checkpoints

By: Barry Donegan
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This Labor Day weekend, Tennessee motorists will be subjected to "no refusal" DUI checkpoints at which suspected drunk drivers could be forced to submit to an involuntary blood test.

Tennessee has a new Labor Day tradition. According to WKRN-TV, the Tennessee Highway Patrol will continue its “no refusal” blood-extraction DUI checkpoints this Labor Day weekend, starting on midnight on August 29 and continuing until midnight on September 1. Under “no refusal” enforcement, suspected drunk drivers will be forced to submit to a breathalyzer or blood test, even if they refuse.

The Tennessee Department of Safety and Homeland Security issued a press release on this weekend’s crackdown, saying, “State troopers will conduct ‘No Refusal’ enforcement in the following counties: Union (Knoxville District); Hamilton and Marion (Chattanooga District); Montgomery (Nashville District); Shelby (Memphis District); Hawkins (Fall Branch District); Smith (Cookeville); Maury (Lawrenceburg); and Hardin County (Jackson District).” The press release also describes how police coverage will work over the weekend, “In addition to ‘No Refusal’ enforcement, highway patrol personnel will also conduct driver’s license, sobriety and seat belt checkpoints, as well as saturation patrols and bar and tavern checks.”


Due to the disputed constitutionality of police checkpoints, Tennessee state law requires that their locations be publicly announced in advance so that Tennesseans who don’t want to be inconvenienced can adjust their routes. The locations of this weekend’s checkpoints can be found at this link.

Civil liberties advocates often question whether police checkpoints, which force motorists to submit to a criminal investigation on the basis of their geographic location rather than probable cause, violate the Fourth Amendment to the US Constitution. Also, police positioned at checkpoints do not have an opportunity to see how a suspect has been driving and instead must rely on less-precise indicators like red eyes or fatigued behavior, which might also suggest that the suspect is coming home from a long work shift and not intoxicated at all. As more officers are placed at checkpoints, fewer can subsequently be assigned to patrols upon which they could watch for impaired motorists in the act of driving dangerously.

Forced blood extractions take place off-site at a police precinct, making the process time consuming for individuals who might be innocent. Additionally, for those who refuse to comply, extraction locations are equipped with tools to strap down suspects and masks to cover their faces.

Approval for involuntary blood draws is typically attained via telephone as judge magistrates will remain on standby throughout the weekend to handle officers’ requests.

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Barry Donegan

Barry Donegan is a writer, musician, and pro-liberty political activist living in Nashville, TN. Donegan served as Director-at-Large of the Davidson County Republican Party from 2009-2011 and was the Middle Tennessee Regional Coordinator over 30 counties for Ron Paul's 2012 Presidential Campaign. Follow him at facebook.com/barry.donegan and twitter.com/barrydonegan
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  • Arizona

    IT sure is a good thing for the POLITICIANS and POLICE GANGS, the PEOPLE OF TENNESSEE,are as YELLOW as a banana,OR you criminals might find your self dog food some day,and my guess is it will happen anyway….YOU PIECE OF SHIT cops KEEP TERRORIZING AMERICA,see where it takes you..and PRAY to your DADDY SATAN,the people are to chickenshit to wake up…………………

    • Liberty or Death

      The People are waking up. That is why The System is ratcheting things up. They are scared shytless of what The People may decide to bring their way. It is time for law enforcement to decide if they are on the side of the fascists or the Constitution. They better be waking up to the fact that The People are now taking names and building lists of what side these “public servants” are on.

      • Jake77

        This is why the politicians in Washington want to take guns. They know what they intend to do to the citizenry and they know such actions are dangerous to do to an armed populous.

    • Desert rat

      The desert must have fried your brain! Crazy much! Ah yes a much too much!

  • Layla Godey

    GEEZUZ, TN, that’s creepy! Taking blood from someone, by force, without cause.

    • shaitn

      OH, they will claim probable cause for sure. Bloodshot eyes…lethargic movements…smell of alcohol on your breath or in your car….all probable causes…and we ALL know how all cops are perfectly honest and forthright and NEVER make up lies or have grudges against people…..yeah…probable cause will be because they want to

  • Liberty or Death

    The TNHP is now a Domestic Terrorist Group and should be treated as such by The People. De-fund them, Disband them and replace their duties with the local Sheriffs. It is time to begin dismantling this Fascist State that we have been forced into.

    • RSA

      The dumbest comment ever posted in the history of the internet! Congratulations! I only thought this level of stupidity was theoretical!

  • Liberty or Death

    Any judge that participates in these illegal and unconstitutional actions should be removed from the bench with prejudice by The People.

    • InfowarsMessenger

      The cops are just as bad for following the orders to do so, and they too are not American for not standing down , these dumb asses are going to screw their own. I hope they all get it back in spades.

      • FRT

        You are the dumb ass!

        • InfowarsMessenger

          seems to me your a bigger dumb ass for not having a clue wth is going on. If you consider them following the Constitution then your dumbed than a box of rocks so shove it Cyka.

          • FRT

            Very intelligent post! IDIOT!!!!

        • InfowarsMessenger

          By the way dumb ass, do you realize they are using this to track the families of everybody’s blood they take of course you don’t. your just another trendy idiot who helped this Country sink. CYKA!!

  • InfowarsMessenger

    One must be very concerned with this, because not many know this, or at least remember this but for each person they take blood from they also get all those you are related to. It is a tracking system that will also track who you are related to.

  • InfowarsMessenger

    The Government Plans To Track Us And Those We Are Related To Using Our DNA
    Read more at http://investmentwatchblog.com/the-government-plans-to-track-us-and-those-we-are-related-to-using-our-dna/#P8xSgWWBI4pDELvg.99

  • Gregory Alan of Johnson

    The ONLY way ANY municipal agent gets my blood/saliva from me directly is if I no longer have vital signs!!!
    TN just lost another tourist until they dismantle the municipal corporations illegitimately masquerading as gov’t!!

    • RTG

      Awesome! One less touron to deal with! Thanks!

  • Tom B

    Is this what you call freedom in a free country?I’m confused!

  • http://www.ergo-log.com croweather

    When you see these things going on you need to BLOCK TRAFFIC!!! Either before you get to the check point or after it and create a traffic jam.

  • Senator Haywood Jablowme

    I hope someone draws some of their blood.

  • phasegen

    It’s called “A clear violation of the Fifth Amendment” and can be defeated in court.

    • shaitn

      Obama says: Amendments? We don’t need no stinking Amendments!

      • LJ Kearny

        Your love for Obama seems very similar to those Senators that are tough on gay people but then get caught themselves in a gay situation. Hmmmmm

        • shaitn

          My love for Obama is based on these things: he is a KNOWN Socialist (remember those pesky Socialist Russians we stayed in a cold war with for decades?), he is a KNOWN Muslim (nothing more to say there, now is there?), He was a rookie Senator before taking office (no real experience…like having a wet behind the ears teen with no training throwing knives at you in the circus). He has been signing Executive Orders that countermand the Constitution left and right, and he has ZERO respect for our own veterans, though he runs around kowtowing to terrorists at every opportunity. Oh, and being paid 400k a year while taking a month of vacation every year while the lower and middle income classes bust their backs at slave jobs while their family goes without. Forced “affordable” health insurance that forces people out of jobs due to downsizing or outright job closings. And that is just the tip of the Obama iceberg that is threatening to sink this country for good. Yes, I have a serious problem with Obama…and as a free (for now) United States citizen, and Native American, I still have that right.

          • Philacook

            Let’s see, starting at your last ‘point’:
            President Obama has taken 140 full or partial vacation days thus far in his two terms of office. At this point in his presidency GW Bush had taken 407 full or partial days.

            You assert that President Obama has ‘zero’ respect for veterans – Citations please? and not just from Faux Lies.
            Kowtowing to terrorists – That would be John McCain, Donald Rumsfeld and Ronald Reagan.
            Executive orders – Richard Nixon 346 – Ronald Reagan – 381 – GW Bush 287 – Barack Obama 187. And please do detail which of his EO’s are unconstitutional. We’ll wait.
            If you knew the definition of the word socialist you would know that President Obama is about as far from being a socialist as you are from being able to pilot the space shuttle.
            Muslim? Really? He’s a Xian, nominally, but probably closer to an agnostic – which would be a good thing.
            The people who are attempting to sink this country are those who vote for people like Mitch McConnell, Rick Perry and Rand Paul. Evil, unfeeling monsters who would sell their mothers for a PAC contribution from the Koch Brothers.

          • shaitn

            Apparently you are unaware that, prior to his first inauguration, Barack Obama specifically requested to be sworn in on the Quran. I have this directly from a Marine who was stationed at the White House at the time.
            He admitted to having Socialist views LONG ago.
            He refuses to pay homage to our own vets who died fighting wars for the politicians in this country, yet visits mosques and tells the American people to be nice to Muslims, regardless of what their militant factions do.
            Everyone knows that all Presidents take a crapload of vacation days and he is no exception, but they are not in office right now, are they?
            As far as the EOs, take a damn good look at all the ones he has made concerning blocking properties for individuals “suspected” of providing support for certain countries. How much of a slippery slope is that?
            Someone gets accused, their property is seized, and before their innocence is proven, they have lost everything. Please don’t say that cannot or will not happen. It has happened with the IRS already, more than once. I fought on one of those cases for the return of property (a farm, their livelihood) when the IRS seized it, mistaking the primary taxpayer for someone with a similar name. It took me 4 years to establish the mans innocence, and another 2 for the IRS to agree to repay the value of the property and equipment they seized in error and had sold at auction.

          • Philacook

            I thought you were a Faux Snooze listener, but you have obviously been drinking at the Alex Jones KoolAid fountain.
            Ooooo – Chemtrils and “I have this from a Marine who was stationed at the White House at the time.”
            Cool story bro.

          • shaitn

            The chemtrail theory is crap. Choose whatever you want to believe. I could care less.

          • shaitn

            How utterly delightful! The last reply I posted to you showed at first, but has since disappeared. It contained more info on our Commander-in-Chief that could be easily verified. I have been censored by someone, surely.

  • Waldetto

    Tennessee is a very totalitarian state, if you love freedom and liberty STEER CLEAR!

    • GSA

      Totally false statement. Very offensive!

      • Waldetto

        TOTALLY TRUE statement, search “Tennessee First State to Allow TSA Highway Random Search Program”! VERY Offensive though, that’s true! Tennessee has offended me with their unreasonable stop and search policies and I will never vacation there again, let’s hope other liberty lovers do the same!

        “Tennessee has become the first state in the nation to welcome the
        federal government’s latest anti-terrorist program: Visible Intermodal
        Prevention and Response (VIPR).

        The U.S. Department of Homeland Security
        (DHS) created VIPR in December 2005, to inspect bus, rail and truck
        stations for potential threats. Modeled after the work performed at
        airport checkpoints and led by the Transportation Security Administration (TSA), VIPR involves multiple federal agencies partnering with state law enforcement to identify possible suspects.”

        • GSA

          Who really gives a crap where you vacation. I don’t give a damn if you ever come here! Whoopty freakin’ do! Another dumbass we don’t have to deal with! Priceless!

          • Waldetto

            So why would you waste your time telling me that you don’t care if you don’t care? Obviously, the fact that you took the time out of your day to let me know how you feel proves you to be a liar! And the fact that you are too stupid to realize this simple fact, well, proves you are from Tennefascistsee right?

          • GSA

            Liar? STFU you narcissistic A hole! Now go back to your where’s Waldetto book dumbass! GFY!

      • Waldetto

        1. Tennessee- Violent Crimes Per 100,000 People: 643.6
        “The Volunteer State” has the not-so-great distinction of holding the worst crime rate in the country. The country music loving state came in first for aggravated assaults, and was close to the top for robberies and murders.

  • Justin Sage

    This is clearly an experiment to see how far they can push citizens and trim the Constitution.

    • shaitn

      This is Obama’s America now, Justin. Constitution is just a word now, nothing more.

      • LJ Kearny

        This happened well before Obama, but don’t let facts interfere with your irrational hate.

        • Justin Sage

          You won’t hear an argument from me! America has been long dead. Obama is just supervising it’s dismantling.

        • Jim Gorman

          1871 is when congress basically threw away the constitutional republic

        • shaitn

          You want a FACT, LJ? Obama WAS in office when this legislation passed:The legislation, which would go into effect Jan. 1, 2012, will require police to force a blood draw regardless of whether the driver consents to it if they have a prior DUI conviction or if they have a child in the vehicle with them under the age of 16.
          Now, as far as I am aware, this is 2014. Barack Obama is on his SECOND term as president. That would mean his first term as president began…oh…lemme see…January 2009? So don’t speak before YOU know the facts.

          • shaitn
          • shaitn

            The first forced drawings in TN were in July of 2009……..so Obama was STILL in office prior to the tests.

          • LJ Kearny

            Obama is responsible for state laws that are pushed by conservative nut jobs? Got it! Sorry sir. I’ll let you get back to your double wide.

          • shaitn

            Boy, oh boy. You are a special kind of stupid, aren’t you? Obama has made no effort in the least to conceal his ever more frequent stabs at changing or abandoning our rights as given by the Constitution. BECAUSE of this blatant behavior, other legislators, at every level of government, including state, county and city, have jumped on that bandwagon with relish. It matters not that they are conservative. They see an opportunity to take another right away from the public, they are going to do it. Monkey see, monkey do.

      • Two Piece and Biscuit

        Because Obama is so incompetent, he’s still somehow able to manage every aspect of every little bit of people’s lives. You probably believe in god too.

        • Taskmasterendgame

          Two Piece and Biscuit

          You probably believe in god too.

          I DO I DO Believe in GOD !

        • shaitn

          Actually, Barack Obama has chosen to ignore, replace or delete parts of the Constitution as he sees fit (Executive orders, for example). Now, other lawmakers are just jumping on a bandwagon that he has rolled right through the middle of our living rooms. Granted, other presidents have done it to a smaller extent, but almost none so blatantly.

      • GooseLion

        This law was pushed into TN Law by conservative republicans.

        Source : http://www.knoxnews.com/news/state/dui-drunken-driving-bill-blood-draw-tennessee

        “Sponsored by lawmakers Sen. Mae Beavers, R-Mount Juliet, and Rep. Tony Shipley, R-Kingsport, the legislation, which critics claim violates certain constitutional rights, received unanimous support in the House and Senate.

        “We’re tired of drunk drivers killing people,” said District Attorney General Steve Bebb, who serves Bradley, McMinn, Monroe and Polk counties and who lobbied for the bill. “We don’t know if it will stand up or if it’s constitutional, but we’ll test it.”

        • Taskmasterendgame

          GooseLion
          Must be RINO Republicans
          You folks in Tenn. need to pay attention to the trash that gets on the ballot !

          If it’s Unconstitutional it’s Unconstitutional silly RINOs

        • shaitn

          Truthfully, either of the two major parties are mostly money grubbing a$$hats who are in the game for the money and free perks..not for the people. The scant few who are altruistic are outvoted and outcast by those whose pockets never seem to get full enough. That is why we now have new names for those parties: Demopublican and Republicrats and variations of both.

  • Amal Iel

    We’re seriously trusting the state in which the infamous Tuskegee Experiments were held for four decades (to knowingly infect poor black people with syphilis and study the effects)… to perform any medical procedure on unwilling participants, let alone a blood drawing?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuskegee_syphilis_experiment

    • GooseLion

      That was in Alabama wasn’t it?

      • Amal Iel

        Whoops, it was. My bad.

  • Josh Bethune
    • dufas_duck

      When confronted with the police, they figure you have no rights and many policeman have stated so, again and again which is always backed up by police higher-ups… Many cops think one’s decision to remain silent means one is guilty and the cop will proceed on that assumption ..

  • Bea Johnson

    Do a little fact checking or fix your typo. Smith county isn’t Cookeville. Cookeville is in Putnam county.

    • http://www.facebook.com/barry.donegan Barry Donegan

      As a quick point of clarification for those reading along, the section you are referring to is a quote by the Tennessee Department of Safety and Homeland Security and the parenthetical city-named districts that were listed alongside the counties in the quote refer to the city in which each police district is headquartered, which is not necessarily always in the county in question. In the case of Cookeville, the Cookeville District includes Smith County despite Cookeville being located in Putnam County. Thanks for your feedback!

  • Anonymous

    It’s pretty simple. They cannot search you without a judge’s order. So, we need to focus on what it takes to change the judges out for those who will refuse to allow these searches.
    As always, the govt can only carry out what the people are willing to tolerate. If we want to change it. It’s a simple matter of WILL to change it.

  • Becca R

    guilty til proven innocent anymore eh???

    • Dakota Kid

      No, it’s guilty until proven guilty.

    • dufas_duck

      Nope, guilty until they can figure out how to keep you guilty….

  • Mark Are

    One of these days it’s going to come back and bite them where it hurts. Between the eyes.

  • Harold lawson

    Well at least they are telling you where they are going to be at. So if you don’t want them to take your blood…Don’t drink and drive.

    • LJ Kearny

      Derp derp derp, if you didn’t do anything wrong, you have nothing to hide.

      • Jim Gorman

        And that right there is the go head take my rights away because I did nothing wrong attitude. Dumb ass

        • LJ Kearny

          Someone apparently already took away your right to recognize sarcasm. (Or maybe you are just slow, you look slow) Regardless, the “derp, derp derp, preface should have notified you that the comment was not to be taken seriously. My error is in failing to realize that’s probably how you approach women.

          • jake

            I caught the sarcasm you started out with derp derp.

      • Dakota Kid

        LJ Kearny “if you didn’t do anything wrong, you have nothing to hide”
        Do you have curtains on your windows?

        Do you close the door when you go to the bathroom?

        You do! I thought you had nothing to hide!

      • Louie

        Did you notice where they mention that a long work shift might give you red eyes or fatigued behavior that may give the impression that you are intoxicated? So working a double shift just might ‘incriminate’ you.

    • Two Piece and Biscuit

      Your papers please.

      • NJ voter

        And there is some people you can’t ask for their papers. Hmm….

    • James Graham

      Um, no. This isn’t acceptable either. If you don’t want them to take your blood, don’t use that route. Besides, telling everyone where the checkpoints are located does NOTHING to catch DUIs. All the DUI has to do is make sure he/she uses a route not on the checkpoint list.

      Cold day in hell before I submit to a blood test for something they will not find.

      • masmullin

        Actually, impared drivers wont remember where the checkpoints are. Letting them be known isn’t really much of an issue.

        • shaitn

          Actually, a slight buzz in some states is enough to be considered illegally impaired. So you could very well remember where those checkpoints are……

    • masmullin

      This isn’t about drinking and driving. Police already have procedures in place to combat that crime.

      This is about collecting bloodsamples (to who knows what end), intimidating people to limit their movement by having authorities engaging in obvious constitutional violations as a show of force, and about giving kickbacks to cops who will get double pay for an extremely easy detail.

  • tt_tiara
  • shaitn

    For this to be allowed based on the possibly flawed judgement of a LEO is just ridiculous. I can see LEOs seeing someone they have a grudge against and forcing them to go get their blood drawn, inconveniencing them at the very least, possibly causing them to lose a job or worse. I am not a morning person. I wake up with bloodshot eyes and serious fatigue. If a cop even tried that on me, I would move heaven and earth to see that officer lose his job and the department and city or county sued within an inch of its existence. Enough innocent people get shanghaied by this crap, and Tennessee will wind up in debt to its own people to tune of BILLIONS

    • loldirtsheets

      you have no power because your idiot countrymen voted it away

      • sventvkg

        natural rights can’t be voted away. This is Tyranny plain and simple.

  • Richard Lord

    Your government holds you in complete contempt.

  • mrchrisgdotcom

    Velcome to Amerika, sieg heil!

  • Its about time

    What happened to innocent until proven guilty? And they call this America. .are you sure this is a free country…hopefully everyone avoids these areas or stays home n bbq’s…don’t give them the opportunity.

    • Tish

      No it is a shell of it’s former self..The years have not been kind to America and her Constitutional freedoms. In it’s most simple form, we have a possible illegal usurper in the White House, and We the People do not even have the power to demand any and all forms of identification be obtained and properly vetted…If it wasn;t so tragic,,,it would make wonderful comedy ..Yet we are living thru this horrific scenario..and even with all that’s gone wrong it is a testament to the strength of this Constitution, that it has not collapsed, even with the alleged illegal in office trying every which way to overwhelm our system, circumvent congress and dictate his agenda…Sadly it seems,,sometimes a crisis such as this must occur to lull a ‘Patriot out of their Slumber’. and only then it is realized what is at stake and what could be lost. Stay the course Patriots,,it’s a long road ahead…but so far..we are holding our own

    • dufas_duck

      If no one shows up to these DUI check points, the next step will be ordering SWAT teams going house to house in order to root out evil DUI deniers and make them give their blood with hand cuffs, beatings, and dirty needles…….

      You will comply………….

  • Don’tYouGetItYet?

    Worth the watch- a learning experience:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2ebudnWlh4

  • Sean Davis

    Well, at least they’re wearing brown shirts, lol.

    • Dakota Kid

      Probably brown shorts too, lol

  • Scott

    If the government tried to stick a needle in me it would be all out war.

    • masmullin

      The government has way more guns than you. You’ll lose.

  • Natedog Hicks

    disgusting

  • NJ voter

    Let me guess, they get time & half & double time for the holiday while abusing the right to move about freely. There’s nothing I need in Tennessee this weekend . Screw that place..

    • GRF

      One less Yankee to deal with! Thanks!

  • GooseLion

    “We don’t know if it will stand up or if it’s constitutional, but we’ll test it.” – District Attorney General Steve Bebb

    Source : http://www.knoxnews.com/news/state/dui-drunken-driving-bill-blood-draw-tennessee

  • KayDeeBeau

    So the 4th and 5th amendments have been suspended in Tennessee for the Labor Day weekend?

    I cannot be compelled to testify against myself – yet I can be compelled to give blood that will testify against me?

    I cannot be arrested without a duly registered (before a judge) warrant or have my person or papers inspected without a warrant but I can be forced to provide a blood sample just because I happen to be driving along a particular Tennessee highway?

    While I condemn driving while intoxicated (shame on you) – there is no Constitutional basis upon which to erect check points to demand blood samples without due process (due process equals going before a judge and proving there is a compelling interest – I am still not quite sure how violating my (as an individual) rights ever equals a compelling “state” interest)

    It is one thing to witness an erratic, weaving, incapable of staying within the lane markers, driver and a general check point.

    An erractic, weaving, incapable of staying within the lane markers – does justify probable cause. Just because I happen to be traveling upon a certain highway does not

    • Christopher TheCharmer Tillis

      If they try to violate your 4th amendment rights, then exercise your 2nd amendment rights as the Founding Fathers intended. Time to put the government back in its proper place!

  • tlpop

    When did the Tennessee government turn to Communism and forsake The American Constitution. Shame on all of those un American officers who would participate in this forced tr

    • shaitn

      January 2009…when a Muslim Socialist was inaugurated into the White House

    • FDE

      Far better to let people think you are an idiot than to post something like this and prove it.

  • FL_Lady

    Has anyone considered the danger involved in handling unknown people’s blood? Police should refuse to unnecessarily endanger themselves and their families.

    • SHT

      The police don’t take the blood. Only certified emt’s or nurses do it. Another remark without knowing the procedures.

  • tlpop

    (cont) travesty. Shame on them for allowing this. Do they think that they and their families will be exempt? Guess again… What’s next forced abortions like in China? Forced medical treatments like they did to Justina Pelletier? Have they no morals and American Values? This is just like the indoctrination of the middle east children. (Same techniques only these are supposed adults who should know better. I hope that they are

    • milady

      This is Roe vs. Wade all over again

  • rockyvnvmc

    This is, rather obviously, against our Constitutionally guaranteed (not granted) rights. Hopefully, some well heeled defendant will take it all of the way to the Supreme Court (if necessary).

  • Tracy

    Great. Can’t wait to hear about all the cross-contamination and blood-born diseases run rampant (more aids and ebola cases anyone?) because of this bright idea.

  • mike

    if any person, police officer, doctor, medic etc.. would stick a needle in me against my will, I will find them and cut their arm off. no one can tell another person to harm another and if they are stupid enough to obey orders blindly they will pay the consequences!

    • masmullin

      You’ll fail to cut off their arm, and they will kill you.

      • Andrew Moore

        The tree of liberty…………… and all.

    • DFO

      That’s what an extremist jihad group would say! Interesting! Hmmm?

  • otisrneedleman

    I don’t even think the Nazis and Soviets did such things.

  • Chritter

    And people call California lawmakers out-of-control?

    • Pam Dunn

      Commifornia politicians are ALL crooks and left winger communists.

  • theallseeingmaster .

    NAZI Tennessee!

    • milady

      Pretty much. If you study history, even less than this is how it began.

    • dumbarse

      Seriously! You are ridiculous!

  • Charlie

    ……and you think Ferguson police are militant?

  • 1966pontgp

    The person who attempts to take my blood better be able to prove to me that they are medically qualified or they will be donating blood too, and no, I DON’T CARE about the consequences. But if they are offering an option of using a breathylizer I wouldn’t have a problem with that.

    • Crime dog

      Breathalyzer will not show drugs in the system. Many dui’s are not alcohol related. So a drug impaired driver of course would have no problem with the breathalyzer. Interesting that you would say you have no problem with a breathalyzer.

      • 1966pontgp

        Well, since it SPECIFICALLY SAYS “suspected drunk drivers” and since the Webster’s New American Dictionary defines DRUNK as Intoxicated with, or as if with strong DRINK I wasn’t taking that into consideration. But I don’t drink or take illegal drugs so it wouldn’t be something I’d worry about. Since a breathalyzer is noninvasive and doesn’t require a person with a fear of needles to deal with it would not bother me. It sounds like it will disappoint you to know that I would make a terrible junky since you seem to be inferring that I am a drug user. I would go so far as to say that you would feel totally safe with me taking out your daughter! Oh damn, I’m out of my antidepressants and antipsychotics. And I’m diabetic and you know what diabetes and antidepressants do to the old slim jim so I guess I’ll have to pick up some viagra or levitra before I pick her up for our date. Now golly gee willickers you’ve gone and hurt my feelings Crime pooch! Be thinking about a curfew.

  • Andrew Moore

    Perfect example of how red states don’t care about the Constitution, they only care about “playing the game”.

    • Pam Dunn

      Moron Move to a “blue” state and get SCREWED on your second Amendment rights among a host of other rights violations.
      OH!! and be prepared to hand over a SIGNIFICANT amount of your paycheck to the Thugs in the state government.

      • Frank Talk

        Pam, I don’t know what blue state you live in, but in my quite blue state no one is getting screwed on the Second Amendment or any other rights.

  • rogersmith

    “strapped down” man, i don’t drink. i would NOT consent if pulled over. GO AHEAD AND TRY TO TIE THIS FORMER USMC DEVIL DOG DOWN. pigs.

    • pepjrp

      If you don’t drink and have no signs of intoxication, then you would not be strapped down. So much drama.

      • milady

        If your just walking down the street, you should have no issues. Like that works for NY citizens.

        • Midol

          Your comment has nothing to do with the topic.

    • RGR

      Oink oink. Jarhead!

  • MadFarmAnimal

    Look at the photo. These are just a few dozen of your fellow citizens who have sold out and become cops due to it being an outlet for their psychopathic tendencies without repercussions. If they were not cops, most would likely be inmates at some state prison. As the saying goes, “The inmates are running the asylum”.

    • FRD

      Absolutely the most ridiculous comment ever posted!

      • MadFarmAnimal

        You obviously do not grasp the meaning or intent of fourth amendment to the US Constitution. The entire operation is unconstitutional, period. I believe it is safe to say that any cop who would follow orders to implement this program is either a moron or a psychotic thug. Since they are required to have an IQ of a fairly warm room temperature to get hired, my bet would be the latter.

        • FRD

          I stand corrected. This comment is the the most ridiculous ever posted. Name calling! Wow how grown up! You should be so proud of yourself! I bow down to you Mr IQ genius!

          • MadFarmAnimal

            Which is as it should be.

          • FRD

            True garbage!

  • Travis McCabe

    all the drunks are going to use the dui free routes

  • Christy

    This has already been taken to the Supreme Court last year – this is UNCONSTITUTIONAL without a warrant. Period. This is nothing more than a scare tactic. I don’t condone drinking and driving and I think those that do should be arrested. But I think with the other multitude of evidence they can collect that should be enough. And in this case with a blanket approach, how long before that one cop who just loves to be the tough guy, doesn’t like the way someone looks at them or how they look, and then someone innocent’s right are violated? I think cops as a whole are great, selfless people and I can’t thank them enough for doing their job. But there is always that one guy in the bunch that ruins it for the rest of them. I just heard a story last weekend about one in Knoxville. And sometimes it’s not even because the cop, or even a soldier, is a bad guy, but I think constantly having to live in a heightened, paranoid state of awareness for crime can lead to problems with appropriate force and actions and a skewed perception of “everyone is up to something.”
    http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424127887323309604578428572996551256

    • dufas_duck

      “Vou vill komply vith zee orderz…paperz vun pazzport pliz…vhere er vou fruum anz vhere er vou guing?? Vhy er vou guing zhere, vou er noch a citizun ouf thiz vrea..vou er vnder arrezt yust fer beingz hare… Zhoot heem, he’z maad fartuv moov………

    • Citizens Arrest

      It is done with a warrant. Get your facts right!

      • shaitn

        Read again. A warrant is issued by a magistrate on standby should the suspected drunk driver REFUSE the test. Hence the name No Refuse. I can see how you missed that though. Honest mistake.

        Approval for involuntary blood draws is typically attained via telephone as judge magistrates will remain on standby throughout the weekend to handle officers’ requests.

        Note “involuntary”. They mean a warrant will be issued if they do not “volunteer” to take the mandatory test.

    • JSA

      It is done with a warrant! Therefore not a constitutional violation! Thanks for you wonderful rhetoric!

  • Alan

    So if I post the times and places that I’m going to assault individuals, I can get away with it too? Neat!!

    • milady

      Good one Alan, basically what is happening here.

  • JLB

    None of you have a clue what you are talking about. The officers do not take the blood. This is done with a sealed sterile blood kit and done by a nurse, emt, doctor, etc. Lots of people died in Tennessee last year as a result of impaired drivers. Anyone not submitting to the test will have a warrant issued by a judge or magistrate to take the blood. Under law, when you get a Tennessee license you are under implied consent to be tested when you are believed to be under the influence. You make it sound like everyone stopped gets blood drawn and that is simply not true.

    • Cin

      It doesn’t matter if it’s a thousand people or just one person being forced to give blood against their will is WRONG and there is no place in the TN or US Constitution for it!

      • RBW

        Nope not Wrong. Clueless!!!

      • Pam

        Let one of you family members get killed by a drunk and then tell me how wrong it is!

        • Louie

          So if a family member is killed by someone texting on their phone, we should be in favor of police searching cars if they ‘suspect’ you have a cell phone?

          • TFS

            Comparing apples to oranges. Comment should be removed.

          • Louie

            Studies have found that cell phone use, hands-free or not, while driving is as hazardous as drunk driving; texting is 5-6 times as hazardous. if we are ceding our rights in search of ‘probable’ drunk drivers, then it is also probable that a driver with a cell phone within reach is at least as great a danger.

          • TFS

            It’s the drunks killing people! Again apples to oranges.

          • shaitn

            Have you not been watching or reading the news? The number of texting-while-driving related deaths has increased exponentially since the widespread use of smartphones began.

          • shaitn

            Apples to oranges only in the fact that texting caused the fatality rather than alcohol. The end result was still the same. A fatality caused by an illegal (in most states at least) action. So, in my opinion, and I may be wrong, Louie is comparing apples to apples…like granny smith to red delicious. Different kinds of the same thing.

        • milady

          One death does not justify a complete breakdown of law.

          • midorky

            So deaths are acceptable? If it was one of your close family members, you would have a different perspective. ZERO deaths are acceptable!!!

    • Beyondstars

      People like you are the problem. To say it’s ok to have your blood taken from you because a piece of paper said it’s ok is mind numbing. Be it cop or nurse taking it is besides the point. One that is clearly bypassing you. It’s your BLOOD! It is sacred. Where will it stop? At what point will people like you feel uncomfortable? And say this is not ok. This is wrong. This is power unchecked and out of control. A sickness. And it’s disgusting and offensive. God help us.

      • JLB

        Nope! People like you are the problem! With a warrant it is legal! I guess you are pro dui! Drive safely!

        • shaitn

          Issuance of a warrant does not make an unconstitutional requirement legal in and of itself. Warrants have long been thrown out due to being invalid on their face, for one reason or another, including unconstitutionality, making any evidence found as a result of said warrant “fruit of the poisonous tree” and not admissible in court, allowing criminals to go free for crimes they actually did commit.

      • Beyond stupid stars

        Spoken like a drunk with something to hide. Huh Blondstars?

    • milady

      Forcing blood tests? Are you nuts to think that some idiots breaking the law should result in a complete violation of the 4th Amendment for all Americans citizens??? And if you resist/flee they have the right to shoot you. See Ferguson and many other “stops”.

      • JLB

        Not a violation with probable cause and a warrant issued. Yes you are nuts! Thanks for asking.

      • FDS

        The Ferguson mess has nothing to do with dui. It is a racial mess! If a white kid got shot by a black cop, it wouldn’t have even been on the news! Plain and simple! Never mind the fact that the kid attacked the cop and tried to take his pistol! Give me a freaking break!

      • TJR

        Not everyone is tested! Only impaired drivers! Know what you are talking about before commenting! They don’t draw blood on everyone! Is that what you honestly think? Duh!

      • Not my lady

        The amendment was not meant to be something for criminals to hide behind. And no they don’t shoot you! Geeze!

  • Northman56

    The Police State unmasked and out in the open. Forcibly strapped down to a board and your blood (your life essence) forcibly taken from you merely because you decided to drive on a public roadway at the wrong time of day. And still some people defend this? Exactly how far do they have to go before their lawless criminal behavior goes too far? People, tis is the exact kind of thing that the Gestapo did in Hitler’s Germany! It is wrong! It is immoral! It has no place within legitimate law enforcement in the U.S.A. This not taking evidence from a suspected child rapist for DNA testing. This is mass testing of completely innocent citizens (zero probable cause) for simply driving down a public road. Might they catch a drunk or two? Probably. But that cannot justify the massive invasion of privacy of huge numbers of innocent people whose only “crime” is being in the wrong place at the wrong time! IF this is allowed to continue, it will NOT stop there. Soon they will be coming to your door demanding that you “submit” to whatever demands that they may make “for the good of the State”!

    • Geeze

      Blood is only taken from impaired drivers! Not everyone! Good grief! Know the facts!

      • Northman56

        And who determines if they are impaired. The Police State! The field sobriety test is a joke! You can “fail” that test for any reason. The LEO decides. Why don’t you WAKE UP and realize what is happening to you.

        • Geeze

          The sobriety tests are scientifically proven! That is fact! I’m awake! Thanks for you concern!

          • Northman56

            Wow. Scientifically Proven! Boy, do I feel so much better now. Scientifically proven by whom? The same politically correct and bought and paid for “scientists” behind the “global warming” crap? When the State is in charge, none of this nonsense that you keep spewing matters. The results will be what they say they will be. Go put on your Brown Shirt uniform and goose step your way to the song of the Tyrants that you apparently admire so much.

          • Geeze

            Why thank you so much! I believe I will! The national highway traffic safety administration by the has proven that it works. You say I’m spewing nonsense? Lmao!

          • Northman56

            Sieg Heil! Nazi. Might as well get in line for your RFID microchip while you’re at it. Then they can tell who you are before they even stop you! Give up every vestige of your freedom for the glory of the State! What a fine little robot you will be.

          • Richard cranium

            If you are North Man, stay there! We don’t need anymore Yankees! Nazi skinhead!

          • Northman56

            You are the Nazi giving up all of your (and everyone else’s) rights to the glory of the State! And I am a Damned Yankee. Married to a beautiful Southern Lady from Virginia. Get your collective heads out of your asses and realize what is happening to your freedoms. Before you don’t have any of them anymore.

          • North Pole smoker

            Your head is so far up yours that I am surprised you can even see or breath enough to post anything.

          • Northman56

            Did it really take you 13 days to come up with that snappy comeback or are you just mentally slow in general?

          • North Pole smoker

            You are nothing more than a sad little antagonistic coward! Your southern girl must be so proud of her girly man!

          • Northman56

            Why don’t you quit enjoying my “North Pole” and get on with your pathetic little life. At least I have a nice Southern Girl to keep me warm. Apparently, all you have is my “North Pole” to “smoke”. So sad. GET A LIFE! Dumb–s!

  • Steve P.

    This is messed up! why? Because there’s thousands of elderly, disabled or chronic pain patient that could be arrested on a mere blood test. Years ago, I ask a Tennessee law enforcement officer about this situation. I explained that I was a disabled Veteran and since I was taking certain medications if I could be arrested for driving under the influence. He replied, Technically yes, but unless we have a reason to pull you over your OK. Basically saying, so long as I wasn’t driving like I was impaired I was fine. I’ve been living alone and taking these meds for over 20yrs…no accidents, no tickets, no problems. But, if I have to submit to a blood test I would go to jail.

    • GFS

      They won’t be arrested or have blood drawn if they pass the standardized field sobriety tests. Period!

      • shaitn

        And where, exactly, did you read that ANYWHERE in the article or in prior articles about this subject? Breathalyzer or blood test. Those were the options.

        • Shameless

          The article does not tell the whole story! Oh but wait everything on the internet is true huh? Lmao!

          • shaitn

            Please take a moment to read my question again. If no one is nearby with an IQ over 100, sound the words out. I never said this article has the whole story. I ASKED where GFS had seen that information. It’s simple. And remember…reading is fundamental. I make it fun, and you’re clearly MENTAL

          • Shameless

            You cannot make that assumption! You do not know me! Name calling? That’s cute. Now who’s mental? Lmao!

          • shaitn

            You just trapped yourself. I never stated that your IQ was under 100, just said you might want to find someone whose is. Also, we are all mental to a certain extent, therefore, what I said was true. Every human being on the planet is capable of, and more than likely already has, done, said, or thought something that is out of the realm of what society considers normal. Being highly angry over what might be something small…road rage…even making weird faces for no reason at all. Mental. We ALL are.

          • shaitn

            I suppose it was not quite fair of me to refrain from warning people that I like to put out little social experiments to see how people act and react to certain stimuli.

          • Shameless

            Please keep the psycho babble to yourself! Now go play Flappy Bird! Geeze! Troll! I’m done responding to your useless comments!

          • shaitn

            Me? The troll? That’s debatable. When I used common sense and a modicum of intelligence to point out to you what you had either missed or ignored, you got aggravated. I’m so sorry you are close-minded and apparently unwilling to admit you may have been in error. Mores the pity.

          • Shameless

            Done!!!!!!!!!!!

          • shaitn

            Apparently not, because you responded again.

          • Shameless

            Mores the pity! Shut up!

          • shaitn

            And again. Are you not a person of your word?

          • Shameless

            I can do this all nite! Lmao!

          • shaitn

            Ah, but you said you were done. Change your mind, maybe?

          • Shameless

            Shhhhhh

          • shaitn

            Like a master fisherman, I just keep reeling you in, and you just keep coming right along with every tug. You are an example of the apathy of this country. You choose not to break the line that holds you. You just throw up your hands and accept that, no matter what you think, say or do, nothing will change.
            The thing is, if enough of the people of this country…any country…take action against the ruling regime, that regime will fail…will withdraw…will die. But the people have to act accordingly.
            All you have to do here is not react to what I say. Then there will be nothing else for me to say. You will have won with your silence.

          • Shameless

            Shhhhhh again!

          • shaitn

            Wow. I try and GIVE you the winning solution, and you STILL don’t take it. Lead a horse to water……

          • Shameless

            Actually I am the master fisherman! I reeled you in and played you like a fiddle! You are not as smart as you boast to be! Omg! How pathetic!

          • shaitn

            Hmmm…someone help me out here…explain to this person how this works. YOU said you were done. I never did. YOU kept responding to my comments AFTER being “done”. You are trying to save face and losing badly.

          • Shameless

            It’s ok! I used to work for BFI and am used to handling trash! I’m not aware of losing anything! I have occupied some of your time today though!

          • shaitn

            Meh…I was bored anyway. Got a two days off in a row and got all my important stuff done yesterday. Not bothering me one bit. Thanks for the entertainment.

          • Shameless

            You are extremely boring! Good nite! I feel sorry for you!

          • shaitn

            Ok, are you reallyreallyforsuresticka needleinyoureyehopetodieabsotivelyposilutelynofoolintotallyseriousnojoshin done?

          • shaitn

            Or is this another grand attempt to “reel” ME back in with your masterful and witty responses?

          • shaitn

            Hoping that I am not speaking too soon, I am now going to say that What Goobers has shown that they are, in fact, intelligent. I say this with all honesty and zero sarcasm. The way to deal with people who do what I did is to ignore them. Do not feed their trolling nature by responding to them in any way. My hat is off to WG for doing it right!

          • Brandy

            Shai, why be such a narcissistic ass hole to people on here! They have the right to their own opinion and you intentionally try to antagonize them for it! Why?

          • shaitn

            Did you happen to read the tone in which my comment was responded to? Did you even take notice of the fact that shameless was being a smarta$$ to me, to which I replied in kind? Stop blaming the one who didn’t start the issue.

          • Shattin’

            Shaitn=I must get the last word in or else.

          • shaitn

            I haven’t said anything on this thread in days and you want to say that? Wow, just…wow.

          • Shat for brains

            Having to say you are intelligent means you are only trying to convince yourself that you are. Common sense? Common sense would tell you that you are a very unhappy person who gets off on taking cheap shots at people! Please get some counseling!

          • shaitn

            Again, may I point out that I was the one who had a cheap shot taken at me. Yet, people like you never seem to see that. Why don’t you take the time to see and recognize what actually happened here rather than pick out what you want to b!tch about?

          • Shat for brains

            You really need help.

  • Dumb and Dumber

    OMG people! Blood is only drawn on drivers under the influence. Not everyone! You are blowing it way out of proportion! People are dying because of drunk drivers! Period! If you don’t drive under the influence then your blood will not be taken! None of you know what you are talking about! Just an excuse to rant and rave over nothing that affects you whatsoever! Let it go!

    • Layla Godey

      Technically, a DUI checkpoint is “without cause” in the first place. They’ve been stopped, and forced to give blood, based on a “could be, might be, maybe”. And it’s all for naught anyway…since they announce where they’ll be ahead of time!!!

      • Dumb and Dumber

        When they pull up and the smell of alcohol knocks you down, there is the probable cause. You make it sound like it is done arbitrarily. Driving is a privelege not a right. That privelege can be taken away. They are committing a violation getting behind the wheel impaired.

        • Layla Godey

          If they had one drink, are under the legal limit, and have not been driving dangerously, then they have not committed any violations. They were *legal*. (And DUI checkpoints ARE arbitrary–they stop anyone and everyone “just because, maybe, might be”.)

          • TRF

            Getting behind the wheel after one drink can be illegal. Impairment can be evident after one drink. You need to do some research before commenting blindly.

          • Layla Godey

            “Can be” is not the same as “Is”. Don’t tell me I need to do some research before you blindly comment on me.

          • Trd

            Do some research! There I told ya!

          • Layla Godey

            And you’re still blindly commenting.

          • TRY

            As are you!

          • Layla Godey

            okay. I’ll cede the “I’m more blind than you are” award to you–You Win!

          • TRY

            I know what I’m talking about!

          • Layla Godey

            uh huh. And you’ve got the internet award to prove it. You’re the winner! Now, you’ve got something to crow about. But back to the unconstitutionality of DUI checkpoints…

          • Lame La

            It just makes you mad because you cannot do anything about it! Lmao!

          • Layla Godey

            Oh no, you get to have it…with my blessings.

          • Lame La

            NOT UNCONSTITUTIONAL! Wouldn’t be doing them if it was!

          • Layla Godey

            Kelly Thomas. Eric Garner. Bounkham “Bou Bou” Phonesavanh.
            You think cops never do unconstitutional things?

            “Due to the disputed constitutionality of police checkpoints, Tennessee state law requires that their locations be publicly announced…” The Constitution does not allow for “without cause”.

          • Layla id10T

            There is cause! People are dying because of drunk drivers!

          • Layla Godey

            People are dying because of drunk drivers…but cops don’t get to violate somebody else’s rights because of that.

          • Layla GTH

            Too bad so sad! Moving on! Pitiful!

          • Layla Godey

            But you were concerned about “people dying!”. Changed your mind?

          • Layla

            Again pitiful!

          • Layla Godey

            I kind of feel the same way about people who talk s*** behind several different usernames.

          • Frtface

            Don’t care!

          • shaitn

            Actually, the legislators themselves admitted that they do not know if it is unconstitutional. Read up on the whole thing. It’s really fascinating

          • Foolish one

            Just let the drunks run wild and kill everybody and then it will all be ok. Hell lets all just break the law. All laws are unconstitutional! Now that’s fascinating! Good grief!

          • shaitn

            I’m not saying let everyone run wild. There is a solution to be found that does not violate the constitutional rights of the people. It just needs to be discovered, thought of, whatever.

        • cryptic_pickle

          It sounds to me that they are doing it arbitrarily.

          • Dumb and Dumber

            Just not true.

      • Stevie

        Layla I am sure glad I am not acquainted with you because you remind me so much of my ex wife! She couldn’t shut the he77 up either! Omg!

        • Layla Godey

          Omg! Mercy me! Land sakes!
          Now, ask me if I give s*** what you think about me Or your ex wife.

          • Stevie

            Ask me if I give sh@t about what you think!

          • Layla Godey

            In your own words, “Don’t care!” Now go troll somebody else, I’m not interested.

          • Stevie

            You cannot tell me what to do! You are a complete DA!

          • cryptic_pickle

            Sorry Stevie, you are the one being an a** here. And if you don’t care, then quit responding.

          • Stevie

            No need to respond to me at all. I did not post anything to you in the first place so please move along.

        • DD

          Layla lives in La la . I bet she is the one that was going to pour acid in the mans face because he ran over a dog instead of wrecking his car.

          • Stevie

            I agree DD!

      • DD

        What about us hemophilia inflicted citizens. Are you saying the state has the right to kill me because I didn’t read a notice?

        • Layla Godey

          No.

    • shaitn

      They are doing the blood draws on people SUSPECTED of DUI. If you are fatigued, you show nearly the same symptoms as someone who is intoxicated. Therefore, you are just as subject to the blood draw as someone who has been drinking. I have trained with various law enforcement agencies as part of my job. An officer is trained to look for slow reactions, bloodshot eyes, slurred words, inappropriate vocal responses to relatively simple and direct questions, the odor of alcohol or drugs, etc. Now think for just a moment. Some of these symptoms can be found in people who are exhausted after a long drive, a long day at work, hypoglycemia, TIA or early onset stroke. There are many possible explanations for symptoms, and an unconstitutional blood draw is not the right answer. Hell, there is a metabolic disease that even makes your breath reek of alcohol..it’s rare, but it exists.

  • http://www.performanceimpressions.com/ Photography

    Tennessee, Tennessee, ain’t no place, I’d not rather be!

    • Photo jerk

      We have enough tourons so please stay home. Thanks for not coming!

      • motorfingaz

        Shut up fool

        • Photo jerk

          Name calling! Awesome! Who is the fool here? STFU!

  • Mike Santino

    lets do something america

  • sillyfugger

    illegal ! any law enforcement that would forcibly draw my blood when i do not drink , if they would do so they will face my wrath to draw my blood . as it is an act of war and an assault on my inalienable rights . no government no person grants them nor will i allow them to take them away from me . i took an oath to defend this nation against all enemies foreign and domestic that includes any of government that wish to deny me that … i love my country that i would toss it all in the flames of freedom … as i can stand before the lord with out regret … ” tread not upon me to deny me my freedom and liberty” if thee deny me of this i will be thine sworn enemy upon the end of time …. my family has served this nation since before 1750 and served in the revolution that founded this country and all the wars since have my fore fathers swore to uphold freedom war 1812,ww1,ww2,Korea,Vietnam , desert storm and dozen or so missions that will never be known publicly, we , my family have all served and protected freedom . long as freedom thrives my blade shall be as a plow when it is denied a hammer and flame is put to good use to forge freedom and liberty again …….

    • Read More

      It wouldn’t be drawn unless you were under the influence! It is obvious you don’t know the whole story. Only part of it was posted in this article. The part to get a controversy started. That is what this site thrives on! Don’t fall victim to it! They censored it to show only what they wanted you to see!

      • http://fiftytolife.com Sally_Oh

        You are wrong, Read More. It is drawn to see whether or not you are under the influence. You are assumed guilty and must prove your innocence. That is un-American.

        • Read More

          I’m not wrong! The article is wrong! Blood is NOT drawn unless someone is under the influence! I am a LEO and I know what I am talking about!

          • shaitn

            Some LEO you are. It says if you are SUSPECTED. Suspicion is not proof under the eyes of the law. I SUSPECT you might be terrible at your job in law enforcement. Doesn’t mean you are. The blood test is to confirm or deny irrefutable PROOF of DUI.

          • Read More

            Exactly! The blood test is used for proof once we are sure the person is impaired! I have been a LEO for over 20 years and have never been in any trouble! I must be doing something right!

          • http://fiftytolife.com Sally_Oh

            What happened to roadside tests?

          • shaitn

            Never been in any trouble? What a naive statement that is! Look at all the police that have gotten away with everything from accepting bribes to outright murder. I, myself, have seen one LEO (now dead by suicide) have MULTIPLE charges from citizens for excessive force. To rid himself of such charges, he merely moved from one department to another. Started as a CO in a prison, moved to his hometown sheriffs department, and finished at the local police department. In each case, the move was preceded by an unusual amount of excessive force charges. He killed himself after being caught stealing bomb making materials from the evidence locker at the police department.
            Further, though you may be SURE that a person is driving under the influence, you cannot in good conscience tell me that there can be no other reason for a person to be impaired, such as hypoglycemia or fatigue, and that such a case has never once been even heard of by you.

          • shaitn

            Just to put this out there, that same LEO put a gun to my head once because I moved his cousins wife and children into my home to keep them from being out on the street when the they separated. Both of them were my friends and it was a mutual agreement between the three of us. The LEO did not understand, or possibly did not believe, that it was a matter of survival rather than something sordid. It took an officer from a different department pointing a gun at HIM to get him to back off. I vowed that I would seek retribution when he was out of uniform. He avoided me for five years, then came and apologized when I caught him out one day. I accepted his apology and let bygones be bygones. I held no ill will towards him after that, and it saddened me to see him leave behind a wife and young child.

          • Read More

            I know how to do my job and I do it the right way. You don’t know me or what I stand for! I was also in the military and fought for your rights to be able to come on this site and say what is on your mind.

          • shaitn

            Thank you for your service. I was in the Navy myself, and fought for those same rights. I never said you didn’t or don’t do your job properly. That was not my point. My point is that just because an officer has not gotten in trouble does not mean he has done his job properly. A general statement of the way things are. You, as a LEO, know full well what I mean. A lot, but certainly not all, of law enforcement agencies have corruption, and in some it runs rampant. In some cases, the corruption is rooted out by Internal Affairs, the Office of Public Responsibility, or whatever their own rat squad is named. All too often though, the blue wall goes up and everyone suffers for it until an outside entity breaks that wall. I want you to know that I have nothing against you, nor am I wanting to argue with you. I simply want you to recognize that there are LEOs out there who do not do their job properly and often retire without a single rip in their jacket. No more, no less.

          • blast0id

            neither of you, nor anyone who has “fought” for “our country” in the last 100+yrs, has ensured me, or anyone else in this country ANY more freedom… the truck drivers in this country do more for our freedom than either of you two…

          • shaitn

            Now, hold on. I joined the military to ensure that the freedoms and democracy we enjoy remain secure. That was my intention. Needless to say, the fights I was put in were not exactly for OUR freedoms, but that is nonetheless why I joined and why I fought, so that the tyrannies of the countries abroad never reach these shores.

          • Shut up

            You are a sad little troll!

          • Read more

            You have no idea what you are talking about! You have no idea what protections you have been provided and how many terrorist plots have been foiled that were never posted to the media! So yes I have fought for your rights! As far as truck drivers go, what does that have to do with anything?

          • blast0id

            Yeah OK, if you knew of any (foiled plots), you’d be sure to post about them, and do pray tell, what freedoms have any servicewo/men ensured, protected, all I see is an imperial federal government broadcasting around the world for super-corporate interests, creating enemies and arming allies that were once enemies or are soon to be enemies, raising false flags and generally causing chaos and destruction for their “friends” and “business colleagues” and then insider trading (because it’s “legal” for them) on the information they are privy to, that you and I will only ever see a redacted copy of it we ever even find out about it in the first place… You’re a sad statist and you deserve the government you have!

          • Read more

            I would assume you have never been in the military. You can’t just post everything you do. Some operations are secret and cannot be talked about. But you wouldn’t know that of course. Call me a sad statist? You don’t know me. I really feel sorry for you! Such an attitude!

          • Devil dogs

            I love the Navy! Anytime I had to go some place to fight, you fellas always gave me a ride!

          • cryptic_pickle

            You might have been in the military, but you didn’t fight for MY rights–you fought for third world countries that don’t even like the US. It was a job, and you did what you were PAID to do.

          • Read More

            Why bother posting at all? You do not know me or what I did!

          • cryptic_pickle

            Sorry, read more, you need to read more. And you are wrong. Suspicion doesn’t equate to guilty.

          • Read More

            I AM NOT WRONG! You simply have no knowledge of how it works!

          • dufas_duck

            Are you sure that the consistent police use of “We have investigated ourselves and find we never do anything wrong” wasn’t used for you at anytime???

          • get some

            You certainly have the correct name. Dufas!

          • dufas_duck

            Actually, I am proud of the dufas_duck handle. It was given to me by a class of school kids. I was helping them write and organize an illustrated book concerning how to be polite and generous with other people. The kids did all the writing, illustrating, printing, and binding. They all did a marvelous job. The main character that they came up with was Dufas Duck. They began calling me Mr. Dufas Duck. Many of them are in college now and I occasionally see them. They still smile and greet me as Mr. Dufas Duck..

            But then you, in normal police interaction, when someone doesn’t swallow your usual police PR, resorts to name calling and belittling. If face to face, you would be the cop that whips out his baton and start wailing away thinking that is what teaches people to respect the police when, in truth, it does the exact opposite…or, you would draw your weapon and empty the clip knowing full well that you would be exonerated no matter what you did.

            As far as having a good record, that is easy for the police to attain….the police keep and edit their own records. Anything the police want to record or not record is in play.

            I will admit to being biased though………

            I got beat on by cops for the terrible crime of driving the same make, model, and color of vehicle that was used in a felony crime. Instead of the police taking control of the situation and checking if they had the correct suspect, they jumped me right after ordering me to the ground and started wailing away while calling me every derogatory name they could think of. They said were “teaching me a lesson”. While on the way to jail, a radio call came in to stand down. Another unit caught the real perpetrator who was identified by the crime victim. The two cops, while still driving towards the jail, began discussing what to do with me. They weighed charging me with assaulting an officer but nixed that because they would have to get all the other cops together to get their stories straight, they talked about saying they found me beaten, laying by my car, by unknown assailants, they talked about the amount of paper work for different scenarios……finally, the driver said f*** it, and turned the squad car around, drove to my car and dropped me there without saying a word to me.

            I drove to an emergency room and while I looked bad, other than my jaw, there was no major damage. My jaw still snaps and pops to this day and is sometimes painful.. Being kicked in the head does cause some damage..

            After leaving the hospital, I went to the police station to file a complaint and who would be talking to the officer at the reception window, the very cop that was earlier driving the squad car that was taking me in to be arrested. He acted innocent and concerned when I asked about a complaint form.

            He told the officer at the window that he would take care of me and volunteered to help me fill out the complaint form, only he would have it filled out that it was a group of street thugs that attacked me and of course, the thugs had to be Black. After some back and forth accusations and some threats by him, I told him to forget it, he then leaned over and in a lowered voice stated, “That’s a wise decision….” as he placed his hand on his weapon in an intimidating manner..

            I figured that my life is more important than some bad cop’s ego….

            So, I have had experience with your exemplary officers and it was both unpleasant and educational to say the least….. But you keep up the PR and gather all the sheep you can…….

          • dufas_duck

            It is easy for a LEO to have a clean record…it is the cops that are doing the record keeping and police ethics are not exactly among the best…

            Are you sure that the consistent police use of “We have
            investigated ourselves and find we never do anything wrong” wasn’t used for you at anytime???

          • dufas_duck

            Suspected to be under the influence… But, with police, one is always guilty until proven innocent unless the cop is a hard nose, then he’ll make sure one is guilty….

      • sillyfugger

        [quote]the Tennessee Highway Patrol will continue its “no refusal”
        blood-extraction DUI checkpoints this Labor Day weekend, starting on
        midnight on August 29 and continuing until midnight on September 1.
        Under “no refusal” enforcement, suspected drunk drivers will be forced
        to submit to a breathalyzer or blood test, even if they refuse.[endquote]

        your correct i did not read thoroughly . when i read the begining parts of post no refusal and mandatory blood test even if they refused . kinda made my blood boil .. but on a legal standpoint that is illegal they need a warrant Missouri v. McNeely , Schmerber v. California otherwise violates 4th amendment n due process…

        where i missed was the word suspected … which we all know in eyes of law enforcement . you are trained to maximize your stop to exploit every possible charge . everyone is suspected of being guilty in majority of law enforcements eyes … my next door neighbor who retired after 30 years service told me that . part the reason why he quit being a county sheriff he said basically there are good officers and bad officers . the trouble begins with way system trains officers now . system is a business that makes money off the sheep he swore an oath to defend .. you sound like a good officer and i wish you to read one quote and i will be content ..

        “Rightful
        liberty is unobstructed action according to our will within limits
        drawn around us by the equal rights of others. I do not add ‘within the
        limits of the law’ because law is often but the tyrant’s will, and
        always so when it violates the rights of the individual”

        Thomas Jefferson
        if you can understand that then i salute you and will defend you if you ever need help . just please remember and honor the oath you took and the words on the side ” to protect and serve ” remember who that means …. government or we the people … with out people there can be no government …

        i do have to add i do understand the diligence that is needed as there is criminals we do need peace officers to keep the peace and it is a very thankless job . thank you for your service .

        • Read More

          Blood is not taken by force without a warrant. We are simply trying to protect people on the roadways by removing impaired drivers. Zero fatalities are acceptable. 1 death is 1 too many in my book.

          • shaitn

            Personally, I would be less against this if there was more than one person making the determination as whether the person may actually be intoxicated, preferably someone with medical training like an EMT or nurse, prior to a warrant be requested. LEOs are human beings too, and no amount of training change change the fact that they may ask for a warrant wrongly, innocently or not. A trained medico can either confirm the suspicion of inebriation, or determine if there is a medical problem instead, and respond accordingly, lessening the chance of violating someones civil rights.

          • Read More

            A lot of the officers out there have extensive training in dui detection and are certified DRE’s. Drug recognition experts. They can do a lot of different tests other than SFST’s. We call one when we are not sure.

          • shaitn

            Now that I agree with 100%. Sadly, not all department exercise this option.
            I was following a friend one day to his house. We had picked up some things from a relative of his that was stored in a wooden structure.
            At one point, he began weaving like crazy. Before being able to stop of his own accord, a deputy pulled between us and lit him up.
            My friend pulled over and jumped out, leaving the truck in gear and rolling. It came to a stop nose first in the ditch. He was waving his arms frantically and brushing at himself all over. I knew immediately what had happened.
            The deputy responded as he should have to start with. He jumped out of the cruiser and drew down on my buddy, ordering him to put up his hands and so forth.
            My friend did as he was told and asked the deputy if it was ok for him to “assume the position” on the bed of his truck so the officer could see for himself the reason he was acting like that.
            The officer agreed and went over to see what had happened. He saw no less than 7 sting marks on my friends arms and face before he got within 5 feet and commented on it.
            My friend explained where we had come from and that there was a wasp nest in the box on his front seat. The jostling aggravated them and they swarmed inside the truck, stinging my friend over and over.
            For his own safety, the deputy cuffed and frisked my friend before opening the driver door on the truck to let the wasps out and pull the box out too.
            So far, so good, right? A perfectly reasonable and confirmed excuse for driving like someone intoxicated.
            Well, that’s where everything changed. The deputy returned to my friend and told him he was going to have to take a SFST. At that point, I leaned out and asked the deputy if I could talk to him for just a moment. He came over and we had a little discussion.
            Basically, I asked if there was any reason other than the weaving that led him to believe that my friend was under the influence. He said no.
            I then asked why the need for the test. He said because he damn well felt like it. I told him to go ahead and do what he damn well felt like, but to expect consequences for his actions. He then threatened to arrest me.
            I held up my phone and asked him to repeat that to his watch commander.
            Before he could say another word, the watch commander told him to get his butt back in his cruiser and return to base IMMEDIATELY (got to love speakerphones).
            My friend went on home and got treated for his stings while I went to the SO to continue my part of this ordeal.
            The WC, the deputy and I had about an hour long discussion, wherein the deputy was severely chastised for for his actions and his attitude. I was asked what I wanted to happen to the deputy in way of punishment.
            Instead of having him receive a black mark on record, or being suspended with pay for a few days, both options given to me by the WC, I chose instead to have the deputy apologize to my friend, in person, and in private. Nothing more.
            I explained to the confused WC that we are all human. We all make mistakes, and no amount of training or policy can prevent that 100%. We all have days when we go around with a bad attitude for a little while and sometimes take it out on those who don’t deserve it. All I asked was that the deputy try to handle each stop individually and with a modicum of restraint.
            Now, that deputy is a close friend to both me and my buddy. He was very appreciative of the fact that I didn’t crucify him for so blatantly ignoring policy.
            That policy reads that if sufficient reasonable cause is proven for erratic driving behavior, a warning will suffice. That is not the exact quote of it, but a summary.
            No one is perfect, not even officers of the law. That is why I think your departments method of calling in a second opinion when there is room for doubt should be practiced by every department.

      • dufas_duck

        The DHS was operating a check point along with a police DUI checkpoint and was requesting people to voluntarily give blood samples for use by Homeland Security. They got very few takers. Who knows what the real reason is for them forcibly taking blood now…

  • Sammy

    I have had 3 family members and 2 close friends killed by impaired drivers! I say bravo to THP and keep up the good work! Get these idiots off the road!

    • http://fiftytolife.com Sally_Oh

      Sorry for your loss. I have lost friends as well to drunk driving. Still, nothing justifies everyone else giving up their natural rights in order to save a life. That is the justification of tyrants.

    • shaitn

      Ok, Sammy. Since cars are obviously so dangerous when in the hands of people who MIGHT be impaired, let’s see about taking your car away because you MIGHT one day get into it with a glass of wine or a beer in your system. Oh, no, wait…..let’s just do it if you drive while tired. Technically, that is driving while impaired and against the law. I am sorry for your losses, but this is not the answer to the problem.

      • Sammy

        Wow what an over reactive comment! Great job!

        • shaitn

          No, that is an example of what the Tn. legislators are trying to do here, explained in a way that hopefully struck a nerve.

          • Sammy

            That is you whole reason for being here right? To strike a nerve? That is what people craving attention do!

          • shaitn

            Not at all. It was simply an attempt to get people to realize what is happening in Tennessee and Texas. Legislators going to extremes and violating, or possibly violating, constitutional rights in the process.
            The attention needs to be given to the legislators who are being allowed to do such things, and to stop them from doing so before they cross the line even further.
            America is quickly becoming a police state, and if people want it stopped, they MUST act.
            Apathy does not work.

      • Get ya some of that

        Driving while tired is only against the law in a commercial vehicle. So you MIGHT be an IDIOT!

        • shaitn

          Incorrect. I have, in fact, gotten a ticket for driving while impaired in a 1981 Dodge Diplomat…so who is the IDIOT? Oh, Wait, YOU!!

  • Abacrombee

    Could be nothing more that a DNA collection post for those that haven’t committed a crime to put them in DNA data banks. There would be no place I would need to be that would put me on the roads during that period of time to even take a chance on the collecting my blood. Beginning to look more like n. korea all the time. Keep voting demo.

    • Stevie

      Totally not true! I cannot fathom how you could even suggest that!

      • Truestargold

        Given the fact that it is, with no doubt, scientifically feasible, what is the reason for your inability to fathom?

        • Stevie

          Absolutely a ridiculous comment with no facts to back it up whatsoever!

          • Truestargold

            “Could be” implies that it is only a thought and not a statement of fact. If there’s a means, motive and incentive, why would it be ridiculous? If everyone that is arrested must submit to fingerprinting, why would DNA collection be any different?

    • Truestargold

      Can’t argue with that.

    • cryptic_pickle

      I agree that it is police state tactics. However, voting democrat has nothing to do with it.

      • shaitn

        I could not agree more. For a long time now, the line between Democrat and Republican has eroded to near non-existence. The two parties are nearly inseparable when it comes to their screwing of the American people in one way or another. It’s not about what is best for the people of this country, or the country itself. Not anymore. It’s all about “how can we find a new way to line our pockets while keeping the sheep in line?”

        • Get out now

          Just go live in another country! It’s that simple! You are so unhappy here so leave! No great loss for the rest of us!

          • shaitn

            “The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.” – Thomas Jefferson

          • shaitn

            I took an oath to protect this country from enemies, both foreign and domestic, and to give my life in the process if necessary. I stand by that oath. We have protected many countries from their own tyrants, their own dictators. Now we must protect ourselves from those destroying us from within. I love my country. I hate what the politicos are doing to it.

          • Truestargold

            I’ll stay and fight for the freedoms my country was founded on. If you enjoy the 3rd world police state mentality it’s you that needs to move.

    • NUTCASE

      Paranoid aren’t we? The have medications and counseling programs for that

  • Putie Pute

    commie bastards!

  • motorfingaz

    Police State USA

  • DD

    The city of Mason Tn. gave me a ticket for doing 65 in a 45 while sitting in the only gas station in town. Took me to the courthouse to pay 85 dollar bail/fine. Mason has been on ch. 3 news for bogus speed trap city. We all know the THP are honest. Except for officer Pruitt. He was arrested for DUI at a check point.

    • Slowdown

      If you were going 20mph over the speed limit then how is that a speed trap?

      • blast0id

        You’re an idiot or can’t read, he said they gave it to him while he was sitting at the only gas station in town, at no point did he say he was pulled over…

        • Slowdown

          You are an idiot! It says the city of Mason was sitting at the gas station! Apparently, you can’t read!

          • blast0id

            are you really that blind, read it one more time SLOWLY!

          • Slowdown

            It should have said “while I” was sitting in the only gas station in town! You read it again smart ass! I have 20 20 vision! Thanks for the concern!

          • blast0id

            Maybe you’re right but let me tell you how I really read it via your initial reply. You are a statist and you believe that arbitrary numbers placed on metal signs along the sides of roads actually do anything other than create busy work and revenue for jurisdictions… If you think they make roads safer then I must contend that it is you who is still the flaming statist. Probably love licking the boots of jack booted thugs!

          • Slowdown

            Somebody is definitely flaming! And it is not me! Yes speed kills!

          • blast0id

            idiocy and inexperience, and also lack of skill can be very deadly especially when any two or more are combined… speed is simply a a number, it couldn’t kill anything if it wanted to…

          • Slowdown

            The higher the speed the more destructive force there is in a crash! That is just a fact!

          • blast0id

            IF there is a crash, but speed does not cause crashes, people do, you’re not to great at deductive reasoning are you… also speed is just one factor of MANY, as I have seen plenty of high speed wrecks where everyone lived… speed is merely a factor in a very complicated equation… it doesn’t do so of it’s own volition…

          • Slowdown

            Yes speed can cause crashes! You know nothing!

          • nelson3300

            high speed -> lose control -> crash
            not
            High speed -> crash

            Race car drivers drive fast, but they usually dont crash. If they do, it was not because of their speed, but rather because they lost control (or someone else lost control and careened into them)

            Regardless, it is not the speed.

            the whole thing is stupid

            why’d you drag everyone into this debacle!

          • Slowdown

            You took it hook line and sinker! If you didn’t like the posts then why comment if you thought it was a waste of time. Now that was stupid! LMAO!

          • nelson3300

            that took 2 seconds, with very little energy exerted.

          • dufas_duck

            The thing to do then is to drive really really fast so you get to where you are going before the accident happens…….

          • Blastoff

            You are one of those people who are so insecure that you have to jab at anyone who disagrees with you! I feel sorry for you and anyone around you.

      • DD

        I was sitting in a gas station. As in stationary. Not moving.

        • Slowdown

          I don’t believe you at all! That is absurd! No possible way that happened! My guess is you got clocked down the road and they found you at the gas station and wrote you.

          • DD

            Can you show me where it says I give a rats ass what you think? Your mother/aunt really should have swallowed you. Also I have turned you in to the police for the pictures of you molesting the goat that you keep sending me. Now stop sending them.

          • Slowdown

            You are a joke! Very grown up response! Your mother must be so proud of you!

          • Baaaaaaa!

            The best part of you ran down the crack of your momma’s butt and wound up as a brown stain on the mattress!

          • Single D

            You should be sued for slander! Who do you think you are making that kind of comment to someone? You are sad little troll!

          • Goat f’r

            Those double d’s are fake! She got them off of her pet goat!

          • That ain’t right!

            What a disgusting accusation to make! You are a pathetic excuse for a woman and a complete waste of DNA! Unbelievable that you would think it is ok to post something like that! Now we all know you are a liar!

          • Nasty DD

            So your husband/brother is a military veteran. Good for him!!!

  • What Goobers

    I am totally appalled at all of these comments! If you don’t like it, then stay out of Tenn. Go live in a third world country for a while where they will cut your head off if you do not agree with their religion. Then come back and tell me how bad it is here in the old USA! Peace out!

    • Patricia McCullough

      I thought Tennessee WAS a 3rd world country!!

      • shaitn

        Not nice. No need for that now. I happen to like Tennessee. Nice people there and beautiful scenery.

        • blast0id

          Lol, just because there are nice people there doesn’t make it any less third world, I’m sure there are plenty of “nice people” in other third world countries too! Lol

          • Moronical

            Please change your name to Blast 0 IQ.

      • Tennessee Waltz

        Totally uncalled for! Please keep that kind of stuff to yourself! Wow!

        • blast0id

          Waaaaaaa

          • Tennessee Waltz

            Very intelligent post! Thanks for your wonderful insight into the discussion! What a joke!

      • Brett

        I agree.. It is a 3rd world country.

        • Go Vols

          Stupid!

      • Patty cakes

        Cry me a trail of tears!

        • shaitn

          I hope you are not referring to the Trail of Tears the Cherokee were forced to march back in the day. That would be wrong, in my opinion.

          • Patty cakes

            I hope you learn to mind your own business! I was not talking to you! So freaking rude!

          • shaitn

            This is public forum. Not to mention the fact that YOU were rude in your comment. Either stop being rude, don’t comment, or don’t whine when someone stomps on you for being rude.

          • Patty cakes

            YOU need to stfu you rude f’n jackass!

          • shaitn

            Pot…kettle…kettle…pot…now that we are all introduced….Have a wonderful day.

          • Patty cakes

            Piss off! GFY!

          • shaitn

            Such a lovely person you are.

          • Patty cakes

            Likewise!

          • shaitn

            Was Patricia speaking to you when you rudely said: Patty cakes Patricia McCullough • 11 days ago

            Cry me a trail of tears!

            NO. So don’t whine when someone makes a comment to you.
            Typical bully move. Wants to beat up on someone but cries when they get smacked.
            I was being nice by not calling you out for being rude to her, but, you just had to say something about me being rude.
            You could have easily said that you were not referring to that trail of tears or just about anything else. Instead, you whined that I was rude to you.
            I think your priorities might need a little tweaking. Just my opinion, of course.

          • Patty cakes

            Wtf do you care what I post to someone else? I don’t want or need your ridiculous opinions! If you treat people this way in real life, you must get knocked out a lot! Have fun Internet Rambo!

          • shaitn

            Actually, I deal mostly with people in real life who don’t get rude with other people like you did. I deal mostly with people who have some sense of respect for others. The few who act like you do get talked to just like I talked to you, and only one ever dared to take a swing at me and he wound up on his rear end with a broken nose. I don’t like to fight, because I have a terrible temper and fear my own strength. Fortunately, my size tends to deter most people from starting a fight with me. Not to say I have never lost a fight, because that would be an outright lie. In fact, though I was the last one standing in most fights I’ve been in, there is no real winner in any fight like that, in my opinion.

      • Maybeim Amazed

        I got a good laugh out of this, and hope you are just being funny. Get over it Tennessee whiners. I’m from Texas and if I got pissed every time someone made a remark about Texas, that would be all I had time for. 70% of Texans believe the earth is only 6,000 years old. Easy target here. I have a few friends in the TN backwoods that would agree with the 3rd world statement :) – just don’t make jokes about the quality of their shine!

        • Cow Crap

          Thank you for that insightful remark Texas Whiner!

        • Patricia McCullough

          I am always surprised at how people have NO sense of humor…LOL! I am from CA, so I have heard lots of remarks about fruits & nuts! So they need to relax…

          • nelson3300

            haha fruits and nuts… That’s Berkeley in a nutshell :D

        • shaitn

          I like Texas…except for the heat. I lived in the DFW area for a while and I believe I lost 90% of my body moisture there in three months.

      • Lou Cifer

        No, that would be California.

      • Soul Kitty

        Lol!

    • Lou Cifer

      I don’t like it and I don’t intend on moving because of it, I expect citizens with government jobs to obey the Constitution, if you don’t like the Constitution and don’t support the Constitution you are the one who needs to leave the USA before you morons turn it into a third world country.

    • Lloyd Welch

      @What Goobers…This comment is absurd. This has nothing to do with neither third world countries nor religion. If you have no respect for the Constitution you are the one who should go live somewhere else.

    • Roger Fenway

      I like how the response to a tyrannical imposition is to tell people to leave. “If you don’t like the direction the Nazi party is taking Germany, you should get out.” If no one stood up to infringements of government and moral transgressions, we would eventually turn into those third world countries or simply an advanced police state with psychologically lobotomized citizens.

  • shaitn

    There are several people on here saying this is OK because drunk drivers are killing people. Yes that is true, and it is tragic. But, let’s look at it from another angle, shall we?
    People are also killed on the highways and byways by people who drive while hypoglycemic…while tired..while angry.
    To follow this line of logic, the police should also test your blood sugar, your level of exhaustion, and your temper, arresting you if you don’t pass their margins, because any of those things can cause a wreck quite easily.
    No cell phones should be allowed in cars for the same reason.
    Are you willing to give up your phone on the road? Are you willing to be subject to testing for any or the things I mentioned above, based on the assumption of one person?
    Now, before you call my statement stupid or overboard, check out how many people have caused fatal wrecks because of those conditions. It’s not as few as you might think.

    • Layla Godey

      Not as many people as you might think…but several usernames.

      • shaitn

        I have no problem posting what I believe. I use only 1 name here, and always will. However, if you want to know my real name, I would be more than happy to tell you. All you have to do is ask. I have nothing to hide, whatsoever.

        • Layla Godey

          Not you…

          • shaitn

            Oh, I know. I just thought I would offer, so that I could not be accused of hiding by WG up there.

    • Shhhhhh

      It is ok! Deal with it! I do not nor will I ever agree with anything you post!

      • shaitn

        I don’t expect everyone, or anyone for that matter, to agree with me. I stated my opinion and asked a pointed question and everyone is entitled to their own beliefs in the matter. That’s all.

    • cryptic_pickle

      I think you’ve hit the nail dead on.

    • dufas_duck

      In California, the head of the Highway Patrol issued orders for officers to pull over and ticket anyone caught yawning. He figures that yawning is a sign of fatigue. The same goes for anyone smoking, drinking anything, or eating anything…he calls it distracted driving……

  • Post with caution

    After reading through all the posts, I recommend not engaging in discussions with Layla Godey or shaitn. They will try to antagonize and badger you over any comments that you post. Please ignore them and they won’t have any more reason to post on this site. Thanks!

    • shaitn

      No, I try to bring awareness. I do, however, troll hard and fast when someone gets nasty in their response. There is no need to be ugly or sarcastic when someone is trying to make a valid point. It would be a better idea to have the people who respond in that fashion ignored, and neither Layla nor myself would have any reason to strike back. I will not stand and be attacked for posting something intelligent and hopefully thought provoking.

      • Post with

        Thanks for making my point! You even said you are a troll! Posters beware! Lol!

        • shaitn

          Way to take it out of context there. I troll as a reaction, not an action. If you comment with some level of respect, you will not get trolled by me, even if you disagree with me. You act like a jerk in your reply, you get treated like one.

      • Get a life loser

        I see nothing intelligent or thought provoking. No valid points at all.

        • shaitn

          That is your opinion and you, of course, are entitled to it. Others may agree with you, or with me, but that is just the way it goes.

    • nelson3300

      I thought their comment on extrapolating the implications of substance testing on other forms of intrusion to be quite compelling.

  • Brent ‘Bulldogg’ Miller

    And Tennesse claims to be Conservative/Republican with this type of conduct? Sounds like Tenn. has to grow some . . . and not let their social communist/Republicans from making Tenn. any worse of a Police State than it already is?

    • Sit doggy sit

      Seriously? Omg! What B.S.

    • jurban

      Social Communist? More like Fascism, Nazi style.

      • Sit doggy sit

        Very simple! Stay in Florida with all the retired geriatrics from other states! Go go go in your hoveround!

  • FacelessWon

    If I lived in one of those towns, I’d just go around tomorrow and put up Checkpoint Detour Signs a block away from all directions towards their locations. lol

    • So ugly that your faceless

      What a waste of a post!

      • Steve Shirar

        Speaking of waste, how the heck are you?…Douches

        • So ugly that your faceless

          I’m doing great! And you Duchess?

    • Waldetto

      Since the locations of these checkpoints are publicly posted, a much better thing to do would be to go up to these check points en mass with hundreds of protesters and have a tiny 1/4 of a shot of alcohol to swish in your mouth prior to rolling down your window, then roll down your window and allow thug to smell breath, refuse to give blood, then at least 8 other thugs accompany you to hospital where blood is drawn showing 0.00% you are turned loose, but you have preoccupied 8 to 10 thugs for an hour or so! There’s more of us than them, so if 20 people did this at each checkpoint, soon all checkpoints would be shut down due to lack of thug/man power! 20 protesters per checkpoint, and just get back in line after your release, and you can totally disable the system! And probably SUE them too!

      “There is a time when the operation of the machine becomes so odious,
      makes you so sick at heart, that you can’t take part; you can’t even
      passively take part, and you’ve got to put your bodies upon the gears
      and upon the wheels, upon the levers, upon all the apparatus, and you’ve
      got to make it stop. And you’ve got to indicate to the people who run
      it, to the people who own it, that unless you’re free, the machine will
      be prevented from working at all!”

      • shaitn

        Not a bad idea on its face, but then folks would likely get arrested for such inane crimes as illegal assembly, picketing without a permit, inciting a riot, or obstruction.

  • Carl Tim

    Sounds like we need a good white riot!

    • Racist jerk

      Racial remarks! Nice job Carl Childers! French fried potaters!

    • shaitn

      Come on, now. A riot is not the answer. Even saying that as a joke could lead to someone taking action based on your words, thinking it’s a great idea.
      Property will be damaged, people might get hurt and go to jail. I hope you don’t want that on your conscience.

  • Big Frank

    Our rights under the Constitution are being eroded, denied, and violated. we are heading towards an Orwellian Police state.

    • MR GUNS

      NO WE ARE HEADING TO CIVIL UNREST

  • Big Frank

    They should be sued for civil rights violations.

    • Teeny weeny

      Tiny Frank! Got news for ya! Not a civil rights violation with a warrant! Try again!

      • shaitn

        Actually, a warrant issued on an unconstitutional action is still a civil rights violation. The warrant does NOT make it legal. Many warrants have been thrown out for that very reason..after the fact. Any evidence, no matter how damning, found as a result of that illegal warrant is considered “fruit of the poisonous tree” in the eyes of the court and is therefore inadmissible on its face. Please don’t take my word for it. Check your case law.
        I am a legal advocate, so I actually have checked it. This particular “law” is what they call a “slippery slope”. If allowed to stand on its own, it can lead to even more unconstitutional laws being put into place.
        I am not saying that WILL happen, just that it is a possibility.

      • http://radishsaltant.blogspot.com/ Eric Vought

        Agree with @shaitn:disqus . Any judge who issues a ‘warrant’ over a hotline without the ability to understand the circumstances and *judge* whether it is valid or necessary is also extremely derelict in their duty.

    • shaitn

      Oh, no worries. They will be. You might even see me up there in a courtroom doing that very thing in my capacity as legal advocate.
      I do need to see if I need to get my bar license there to do so. I don’t charge much, because I fight for what is right, not for money in my pocket.

      • ScarletPimpernil

        Before you advocate, educate.

        Case law makes clear that we cannot be compelled to waive a right as a condition of exercising another right, or even a privilege. However, you will find the laws under which many jurisdictions purporting to act are tied to implied consent.

        In other words, it is implied, by obtaining a driver’s license, you give consent to searches and such that are, otherwise, barred by constitutional protections.

        Individuals may demand simple, administrative hearings with the DOL to establish the fact no right is waived. It may even be a simple notice, by way of affidavit or declaration, sent to D.O.L., may be adequate to set the stage.

        Following service of the notice, it would be wise to use your state disclosure laws to request a copy of the notice. That request could also seek policies and procedures for establishing the non-waiver on your driving record with D.O.L.

        Due process is well established to commence at the administrative level, so you have the right to interact with D.O.L. regarding this important issue, since it pertains to a means of exercising your right to travel. This sort of action can open a HUGE can of worms for D.O.L. I say this from first hand experience.

        • shaitn

          I agree wholeheartedly. Hopefully that will be sufficient. However, I have found that, in many cases these days, no one listens or cares until a lawsuit is put in motion and national headlines are made.
          Sad, but true.

      • terry mcclinton

        Loving You. Need a student?

        • shaitn

          Not at the moment, but I will certainly keep you in mind when and if…

  • Get a life

    Trolls out in force! Tomorrow all of you will have something new to bitch about! Pathetic!

  • Wow

    This is the mountain out of a mole hill thread!

  • RedStateRetards

    Unconstitutional therefore inadmissible therefore a stupid waste of time and money that will allow drunk drivers to walk out of court scot free on technicalities.

    • shaitn

      I agree. Well said!

  • shaitn

    To everyone posting here, please take the time to research the facts before you post. Then state your opinion based on the facts, not supposition.
    To the people who reply to those who post, be kind. No need for ugly words, name calling, or nastiness. If you speak with courtesy and respect, then anyone responding to you SHOULD do the same. I know this won’t happen every time and it saddens me to say that.
    If you jump on someone who has posted or commented, don’t be surprised if they get rude with you right back. They have the right to do so. This includes people commenting on an ongoing debate between two people who have already had words.
    All I’m saying is, especially in my case, be nice, and I will be nice right back. Be rude, and rude is what you will get. If I reply in caps at any point, it is merely to stress that point. I am not ‘yelling’. My apologies for not pointing that out before.
    Most of us here are adults. Can we not act like it?

  • william C

    Without justifiable cause, this imposition is unconstitutional, therefore illegal. Read Amendments 4 and 5 to the Constitution.

  • shaitn

    I have been reading the comments section and what I have seen begs these questions: those of you who are telling us “whiners” to shut up, or leave the country, or whatever…are you happy with the changes in the United States government and the laws passed in, oh, the last 25 years? Are you satisfied that we send our family members to die for police actions around the world? Are you thrilled that our rights, as guaranteed by the Constitution, are being eroded year after year? Do you get all warm and fuzzy because our country is broke as a joke, yet we still keep giving money to countries everywhere?
    If you answered no to even ONE of those questions, then you are just like me, whether you want to admit it or not. The difference between us is, I don’t just stand there and take it. I try to rally people to enact change within and without the system. Once we have enough people who are tired of the garbage, we can do something about it. The American people have long been a voice of change and a stalwart force against tyranny of any kind. Now the apathy that has grown rampant has allowed a form of tyranny within our own borders.
    No tyranny, you say? How about properties being seized on suspicion alone? How about police being allowed to get away with the most heinous acts upon citizens? How about not having legal recourse against law enforcement who break in your home, cause damage and injury, and being allowed to walk away without a mark even though your house was the wrong one? How about special needs children..or any children, being abused in our schools and the schools and educators get away with it because of sovereign immunity? (Read up on that one, you will love finding out about that piece of work)
    Every one of these things and many many more are happening in our country RIGHT NOW, and the general response? “Oh, there’s nothing we can do about it, so why bother?”
    I say, YES WE CAN. Voting is a bunch of crap. It only brings in another greedy, soulless jerk who cares only for him or herself. Electoral votes are a joke.
    We need to clean out the government from the highest office to the lowest clerk and start over. Give the jobs to people who DO NOT WANT IT, but are willing to do the job right. To people who want the change and are wiling to stand up for what is right for the United States, not Iraq, not Bosnia, not a single other country..until we take care of our own FIRST.
    We have to stop our jobs from leaving these borders. We have to stop pi$$ing money away by giving huge tax breaks to the rich, and giving other countries money when our own people are doing without.
    Think! If we go broke, how can we be of help to anyone ever again? Our military will fail, our economy will die, and we will wind up being the Third World country we so easily laugh at.
    How many businesses now are actually owned by citizens born in this country? How many are owned by foreigners or foreign conglomerates?
    The democracy is failing because the ones running it are no longer democratic.The people have to take a stand, and stop the garbage.
    It’s not just Obama. It’s not just Democrats. It’s not even just the fed. It’s rampant throughout all levels of government, from the lowliest city hall to the supreme court and the office of the Commander-in-Chief.
    Clean it all out. Rout the greedmongers. Begin again. It’s the only way to save this dying democracy.

    • TrollStomper

      How do you propose to change it and change it to what. Obviously our present constitution wasn’t enough. If you haven’t heard we no longer have the bill of rights to protect us, they suspended them soon after 9/11. What from of government would you suggest that the rich and powerful can’t corrupt or subvert?

      • shaitn

        It’s not what we change it to, it’s who we change in it. No more ‘impeach and let them stay”. Impeach and toss them out. This happens fast enough and often enough and we will, sooner or later, end up with someone in those offices who are competent and just. Law of averages, my friend. It’s either that or continue with the same system we have now, which is in steady decline.
        One of the problems we face is that only the very rich have the money necessary to run for office anyway. Start by changing that. Don’t make it where the office can be bought.

  • dan1701

    Miranda rights should protect someone from being forced to incriminate themselves by submitting body fluids. Has this practice been challenged by the legal profession?

    • shaitn

      Not sure if it has yet, but I am certain it will be.

  • Waldetto

    “There is a time when the operation of the machine becomes so odious,
    makes you so sick at heart, that you can’t take part; you can’t even
    passively take part, and you’ve got to put your bodies upon the gears
    and upon the wheels, upon the levers, upon all the apparatus, and you’ve
    got to make it stop. And you’ve got to indicate to the people who run
    it, to the people who own it, that unless you’re free, the machine will
    be prevented from working at all!”

  • InfowarsMessenger
    • Loser

      Calling someone a dumbass? Very grown up post! Your mommie must be so proud!

  • DD is a bitch

    DD is a complete moron and a liar!

  • Cindy Citizen

    Seriously?? They are allowed to “strap-you-down” and forcefully take blood for refusing?? Geez, what next in light of so many cases where the police already abuse citizens and super-enforce their authority.