TEXAS: New bill declares all federal gun control invalid and non enforceable

By: Michael Lotfi
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AUSTIN, November 14, 2014– A Texas legislator has introduced a new bill to derail the enforcement of virtually all federal gun control measures within the state’s borders.

“With this bill, Texas could help lead the country forward,” said Scott Landreth, campaign lead for ShallNot.org, a project of the Tenth Amendment Center that advocates for states to protect their citizens from federal overreach. “Passage would have serious impact on the federal government’s ability to carry out its unconstitutional gun control measures already on the books.”


Landreth  has suggested that this could create a domino effect.

Introduced by newly re-elected State Representative Tim Kleinschmidt (R-Lexington), House Bill 176 (HB176) declares all federal restrictions on the right to keep and bear arms to be “invalid” and “not enforceable” within the state of Texas. It bill reads, in part:

A federal law, including a statute, an executive, administrative, or court order, or a rule, that infringes on a law-abiding citizen’s right to keep and bear arms under the Second Amendment to the United States Constitution or Section 23, Article I, Texas Constitution, is invalid and not enforceable in this state.

If passed into law, all government agencies and employees within Texas would be banned from enforcing any federal law in violation of the act.  The prohibition on enforcement includes any federal legislation that:

(1) imposes a tax, fee, or stamp on a firearm, firearm accessory, or firearm ammunition that is not common to all other goods and services and may be reasonably expected to create a chilling effect on the purchase or ownership of those items by a law-abiding citizen;

(2) requires the registration or tracking of a firearm, firearm accessory, or firearm ammunition or the owners of those items that may be reasonably expected to create a chilling effect on the purchase or ownership of those items by a law-abiding citizen;

(3) prohibits the possession, ownership, use, or transfer of a firearm, firearm accessory, or firearm ammunition by a law-abiding citizen;

(4) orders the confiscation of a firearm, firearm accessory, or firearm ammunition from a law-abiding citizen.

State employees who knowingly violate the act would risk a suit for damages for assisting the federal government violate an individual’s right to keep and bear arms in Texas. A defense of sovereign immunity would also be prohibited in such a suit.

Kleinschmidt, starting his 4th term in January, has developed a reputation as a strong defender of the Second Amendment. In the 2013 session, he worked to pass legislation that “prohibits public and private colleges and universities from adopting administrative rules banning the possession, transportation and storage of lawfully-owned firearms and ammunition in private motor vehicles by students and visitors with Concealed Handgun Licenses (CHLs).”  He was also heralded by the NRA-ILA for his 2011 employee/parking lot protection bill that was signed into law that year.

Recognizing that the federal government would always require cooperation on a state and local level, James Madison, writing in Federalist #46, advised state “legislative devices” and a “refusal to cooperate with officers of the Union” as a strategy to push back against unconstitutional or merely unpopular federal acts.

Last year, Judge Andrew Napolitano said that if a single state stop participating in the enforcement of federal gun laws, it would make those laws “nearly impossible” to enforce within the state.

“If a few other states follow Kleinschmidt’s lead, it’ll also give Washington D.C. pause before even trying to pass new restrictions on our right to keep and bear arms,” he said.

The approach is on sound legal footing, with notable Supreme Court opinions backing the view that the federal government cannot require a state to expend manpower or resources in the enforcement of a federal act. The 1997 case, Printz v. US serves as the cornerstone.  In it, Justice Scalia held:

The Federal Government may neither issue directives requiring the States to address particular problems, nor command the States’ officers, or those of their political subdivisions, to administer or enforce a federal regulatory program. 

As noted Georgetown Law Constitutional Scholar Randy Barnett has said, “This line of cases is now 20 years old and considered well settled.”

In 2013, similar legislation was passed in Idaho, although not as far-reaching as the bill from Kleinschmidt. Another bill was signed into law in Alaska, but lacked the specifics of which federal acts the law addressed.  And another law was signed in Kansas, but is currently not being enforced due to a court challenge from the Brady Campaign over provisions that include criminal charges for federal agents.

HB176 will first be assigned to a committee, where it will need to pass before a full assembly of the State House can consider it.

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Michael Lotfi is a Persian-American political analyst and adviser living in Nashville, Tennessee. Lotfi is the founder and CEO of BrandFire Consulting LLC. The firm specializes in public and private technology centered brand development, lead generation, data aggregation, online fundraising, social media, advertising, content generation, public relations, constituency management systems, print and more. Lotfi is also the executive state director for the Tennessee Tenth Amendment Center, a think-tank focused on restraining federal overreach. Lotfi graduated with top honors from Belmont University, a private Christian university located in Nashville, Tennessee.
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  • mark mc

    Good news but Texas needs to change it’s open carry laws.
    Keep and Bear Arms.
    If your cannot carry, Your not Bearing.

    • josita

      that law is from reconstruction era/civil war and abbott states as soon as the new bill crosses his desk,it’s signed.
      you can open carry long guns
      and obviously one can carry and does as laws cover in vehicles etc or get a CCW.

      • Republican Exodus

        The change in open carry laws is to include the open carry of handguns.

  • Carpe Diem, tomorrow’s 2 late

    As always. .Proud to be a Texan!

  • Mark

    what about nullifying the “Patriot” Act while we are at it. Infringements of civil rights prosecuted as treason and sentenced accordingly.

  • Republican Exodus

    Jeez, with all these bits of liberty that everyone in Texas wants, we should have elected Kathie Glass.

  • Charles

    Repeal enforcement of the patriot act and brady bill to start with.

  • David Colpo

    There are seven other amendments not being addressed by this bill, six of them – the 1st and 4th through 8th – being regularly violated by the feds. Why should they not be included? Maybe it’s because the state and local governments of Texas, as well as every other state in the union, violates them just as regularly, much of the time at the behest, and with the financial support, of the criminal organization in Washington DC.

    • Whatever

      It’s easier to work piece by piece.

  • Christ

    “…a project of the Tenth Amendment Center that advocates for states to protect their citizens from federal overreach.”
    This is confusing. How can anyone be protected from the federal government when they are citizens of the federal government? How can states protect THEIR citizens when they have none?
    Correct me if I am wrong, but does not all international law, ecclesiastical law AND the Law of Nations state that to be a citizen of one (nation/state/country/corporation), then any conflicting allegiances by contract must first be dissolved or nullified? If this is true, then if you are pledged to the federal government, you cannot be a citizen of a state. True or not? Dual citizens have conflicting interests in a situation where they collide and, according to contract law, the first contract, chronologically, takes precedence, essentially castrating any binding rules of dual citizenship.
    Like I said, their words confuse me; words like ‘democracy’ coming out of the mouths of those posing as government officials when democracy is not mentioned in any of America’s founding documents; when democracy was warned against by almost every single one of our Founding Fathers.
    Confusing, indeed.

    • Justin Coone

      its very easy…you are witnessing the Great Withdrawal….we are slowly (almost too late) taking about our constitutional republican form of government and I am sorry the sovereign citizen argument has never made any sense even in contract law…..if you want to be free then be free, rules were meant to be bent not broken….live the common law and quit talking it to death….

      • Christ

        I have freed myself, but a consensus (consent of the governed) is required for real change. It is the common law of which I speak and I have resolved to continue to talk about it until a consensus is reached. I know there is no such thing as a sovereign citizen, as those two terms are incompatible.

        • Justin Coone

          10% that’s all it has ever took…you get it friend sry if I came off a little harsh…

  • Arizona

    THE LORD says the demoncrates, are going to VOTE out the US CONSTUTITION,and replace it with one where most of your rights are gone,INCLUDING the FIRST amendment,AND the SECOND amendment,then they will use the UN to disarm everyone,ALL LEGAL YOU UNDERSTAND…….according to them……………YOU GUYS better be getting ready,ITS about to happen……..AND don’t go anywhere without your best BATTLE RIFLE on thanksgiving,OR black friday,these demoncrates are VERY sneaky………

  • https://www.facebook.com/quinn.sysmith QuinnSysmith

    Now declare all federal marijuana laws “invalid and non enforceable” and Texas may have something really beneficial going.

    • TexTopCat

      Did is miss something in the Bill of Rights that made illegal and dangerous drugs protected?

      • https://www.facebook.com/quinn.sysmith QuinnSysmith

        I guess you did, the part about ‘liberty’ and ‘freedom’ perhaps? Now about your false and inaccurate statement, please provide scientific and medical research (that isn’t funded by those corporations and institutions who profit from prohibition) proving cannabis is “dangerous”, or stfu. People like you, who choose willful ignorance, over truth and facts, is astounding. The amount of scientific and medical information and research that is available, and you have the nerve to troll me?…. Disgusting…. The non lethal, cancer fighting plant was created by God, and you have no right dictating what someone “should do or think in regards to this plant or anything else. You sound more like a sociopath who enjoys watching people suffer and die, when this plant has been proven to help. Or even worse, you’re one of those evil, disgusting, sub-humans who profit off of throwing non violent plant users in ‘for profit’ slave labor prisons.

        • TexTopCat

          “Cannabis” is not legal under state or federal law at this point.
          I call it dangerous, mainly because of the actions people take to get the money to obtain it, namely steal.
          Of the two recent high profile cases, Brown in Ferguson and Martin in FL, both were pot users and both are extremely violent. So, some react to it much different that the “chilled out” common perception.

          I have no problem with it being made legal and regulated like alcohol, but please understand it is not something that is a “civil right”. Until the law is changed I also support people that break the law be subject to the punishment.

          “cancer fighting plant” – no, it removes some of the pain associated with cancer, but it does nothing to cure or treat the problem. Most pain specialist believe that there are other pain killers and methods to control the pain that are superior.

          • Guest

            Last I heard… Cannabis was legal under several states at this point.
            Try keeping up dude.

          • TexTopCat

            Clearly only because the DOJ does not enforce federal law. The next AG may or may not make the same determination. The decision to not enforce drug laws was a political rather than rational decision.
            Just as F&F giving automatic weapons to drug cartel.

            The idea is related to this topic in that the state is saying that they will not enforce federal law but different in that there is not Bill of Rights reason to do so. In the case of gun laws, the states that refuse to enforce federal law are merely saying that they will enforce the Constitution over the unlawful actions of the federal government.

          • https://www.facebook.com/quinn.sysmith QuinnSysmith

            from personal experience, and medical research done in the last 5 years, I can tell you, you’re wrong about your statement ~>
            “cancer fighting plant” – no, it removes some of the pain associated with cancer, but it does nothing to cure or treat the problem. Most pain specialist believe that there are other pain killers and methods to control the pain that are superior.”

            “Cannabis has been shown to kill cancer cells in the laboratory(see Question 6).”
            http://www.cancer.gov/cancertopics/pdq/cam/cannabis/patient/page1

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGQFAyzMWNg

            http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-2837774/How-CANNABIS-treat-cancer-Study-finds-compound-plant-help-shrink-brain-aggressive-brain-tumours.html

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0psJhQHk_GI

  • flabbergasted

    excuse me , but Missouri has already passed such legislation. are you unaware of this? their’s is also retroactive to all laws previous to it.

    • Mitz Manuel

      Yea i heard about that me and a bunch of my friends had a party in there honor! I will admit i don’t remember much other than getting someones truck stock in a bayou.

  • Brandon Johnson

    //2nd Amendment: A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free
    State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be
    infringed.// So I guess Texas is choosing to ignore the “well regulated” and “Militia” parts of the amendment? So they want armed, unregulated civilians? They are actually overstepping their 10th amendment right by nullifying the words of previous amendments.

    • NCFREEDOM

      Actual Brandon Texas has a regulated State Militia, so in essence your point is invalid. Also, the two are separate but connected. Each man, from 17 up is a part of their State Militia. So, for the state of Texas to maintain a well regulated militia, each man 17 to 70 needs to be equipped to defend their state. And please don’t retort that the National Guard is the State Militia, they were rolled into the USArmy years ago. In addiction, the term regulated at the time of the constitutional convention had a different meaning than how we use the term today. I suggest you do some further reading, both the Federalist and Anti Federal papers would be a good place for you to start

    • William Stone

      Actually, being Texan, looks like we are recognizing “shall not be infringed”.

    • Megalith

      Keep writing. I want to see how big of a fool you really are.

    • vphilly

      You. Are. An. Idiot.

    • TexTopCat

      “regulated” means having your weapons in good working order and ample ammo. Your misuse to indicate that government should control use of such weapons is not what 2A says or was meant to say.

    • AsleepNoMore

      The word “regulated” had a different meaning at the time. It meant “to keep regular”.

      In the case of the militia, it would mean well practiced and drilled. The commerce clause has been similarly misinterpreted to mean that the federal government can impose any regulations it wishes on the states, but what it meant was to keep commerce regular or to keep states from impeding the free flow of commerce across state lines.

  • Ryan

    Have you ever heard of an ARMY that was not allowed to have arms/weapons by It’s own government?
    Find one government in the entire history of humanity that felt a need to document a “RIGHT” for it’s soldiers to carry weapons.
    The claim that the Government wrote the 2nd Amendment to give Our soldiers a “right” to carry weapons is S-T-U-P-I-D.
    The only reason for the Second Amendment is to clearly spell-out the GOD GIVEN RIGHT of INDIVIDUALS to keep & bear ARMS.
    The only reason for the BILL(list) of RIGHTS was to codify INDIVIDUALS’ GOD GIVEN RIGHTS.
    Has there ever been a government that was not chock full of it’s “rights” up to and including declaring itself to be the Lord God Almighty?!
    Does the 1st Amendment mean the GOVERNMENT is allowed to give speeches? Try shutting up any Government.
    Anyone who tells you the 2nd Amendment applies to the Army or State Militia, is telling you they think you are STUPID.
    There has NEVER been a government that felt it had to codify it’s army’s/soldier’s “RIGHT” to “Keep and BEAR ARMS” because there has NEVER been a government that refused to allow It’s own soldiers to KEEP and BEAR ARMS!

    • Michael Simpson

      The 2nd Amendment applies to the Army or State Militia.

      • john

        applies to anybody between the ages of 18-65

        • Whatever

          Since when?

          • hotsauce

            The first 10 amendments are commonly called the individual Bill of Rights. They enumerate the rights of individuals not the state.

            http://www.usconstitution.net/consttop_resp.html

          • Kay Graves

            The governments powers are enumerated and delegated; the Peoples are not.
            Well, when we still had them…

          • hotsauce

            Kay you are wrong.
            The first ten amendments in the Bill of rights list the rights of individuals not the state. If you refuse to click the link provided then just Google it.

          • Kay Graves

            I don’t have to ‘google’ anything…just read the Constitution. The first 10 amendment tells the government, some of, what the government will NOT do. There is nothing on what the People shall do nor does it ‘list our Rights’. Read the words… it is a partial list of what the Federal Government WILL NOT DO (the 9th is the catch all for everything else). The Bill of Rights are further instructions for the Federal Government…not the People.
            The 10 Amendment does include the States; but since the People are supposed to hold the reins of the State THAT is the purview of the People also.
            That is why Obama said the Constitution is a negative charter of liberties (paraphrasing). It doesn’t tell the People what they can do…it tells the government what they will and will not do.
            Don’t read what you were told the Constitution says; read what the Constitution actually says or show me where it instructs the People.

          • hotsauce

            Kay, you’re word parsing just like Obama.
            That’s why you quote Obama’s view on the BOR.
            The first 10 amendments all pertain to the citizens.
            The first 10 amendments tells the government what it cannot do to citizens but it’s still about the citizens.

            The second amendment is about individual citizens not the state Militia.

          • Kay Graves

            How can I be parsing words when I am saying “read the Constitution? As for the Obama jab; Obama was referring to the entire Constitution, not just the 1st 10 Amendments. Since the Constitution is to instruct the Federal Government on what they will and will not do…since Obama wants to be a Dictator…as far as he is concerned the Constitution is a negative. You still haven’t shown me where the People’s Rights are listed. Please type a quote, from the Constitution, and include the Amendment or Article so I can find it. The States are mentioned in the 10th. The 2nd Amendment is about the People and the Militia. ‘Well regulated Militia’ was not a typo; since we were not supposed to have a standing army (only a Navy). Look at what you have posted and re-read the first 10 amendments. If you don’t see my points…then you don’t.

      • Hal Rounds

        Nope – the “militia” part of the Second Amendment states that it is necessary for states to have a militia to remain free. Statute defines the militia, ad John says, as all from 18 – 35. But the second part of the 2nd states that “the right of the people” shall not be infringed. “The people” in all other parts of the Constitution and contemporary discussions ALWAYS meant ALL the people. This notes that the right is not granted by the Constitution, but is a right existing at the time the 2nd Amendment was composed. Sorry – there is explicit demand at the time of the founding that NO restraints can be placed by the federal gvt on the ownership and possession of guns.

      • William Stone

        Michael, exactly where does the 2nd amendment mention the word “army”?

      • TexasRedNeck

        Wrong.

      • Megalith

        Try again liberal stooge.

      • Doug Packer

        Supreme Court and Founding Fathers disagree

      • Kay Graves

        He has a point…since the Militia is the People.
        We are to have a Navy, not a standing Army.
        B+ on creative reading; D- on reading comprehension .

      • joe

        Completely wrong, just read the Federalist papers where these lunacy is debated…The Militia is the peoplePeople affirm things without being properly informed that’s why the double agents have taken America from within…

  • BillRind

    every western state and southern state must pass the laws like this as far as the eastern states and the west coast sates let them eat their own shit and let them be taken over by their comrade communists, the people are mentally ill in those states anyway. and when these people from these Marxists states decide to crossover and start trouble in the freedom states, then they would get the butt end of the rifle over their head.

    • Robert Adams

      Well, thanks for all the support for fellow patriots that are stuck behind enemy lines, in states like California. With Friends like you who needs enemies.

      • BillRind

        Well then you need to cross over and get out from behind enemy lines and seek higher ground. Iam sorry you are in the position you are in, but you must try to flee before they bang your door down unless you are willing to take a stand with a bunch of like minded fellows and take them all out.

  • Undecider

    In the weeks leading up the signing of this bill, expect a “false flag” attack involving a mass shooting to happen.

    • Whatever

      Is that even going to work in Texas? I’d think it could even improve the chances at success if such a thing were to happen.

  • BarkingDawg

    What specific federal gun legislation would that bill seek to neutralize?

    • Johannan Baptiste

      All of them.

      • BarkingDawg

        And then what?

        How would the gun shops in Nevada operate without a federal license?

        • AsleepNoMore

          within the borders of Texas.

  • Big Megina

    a white man with balls.Bravo.

  • Just Sayin

    Read the Obama prophecies, no one is going to stop what is coming, and it is extremely close! Several prophecies about him are posted at revelation12 dot ca

  • TexasRedNeck

    Thanks to State Representative Tim Kleinschmidt.
    I am proud to be a TEXAN, we don’t need or want the Feds in our lives.

    • From My Cold Dead Hands

      Rumor has it that Texas and Colorado will be the first states they try using martial law.
      You Texans talk a lot of shlt, that would be the time to back it up.
      Talk is cheap, lets see action that will make us proud to be Americans again.
      Good luck

      • JamzHelm

        Bring it on! Let’s see them try to enact any kind of martial law in Texas! It would be the worst mistake the feds have made, and that’s saying a ton!

  • Megalith

    Pray to God this passes. This would make all gun laws null and void, including requiring a federal class 3 tax stamp to own select fire weapons and the Hughes Amendment.

    • BarkingDawg

      Are you sure you want just anybody to be able to by an automatic weapon?

      • Megalith

        As long as you’re an American citizen, that’s all that’s required under the Constitution. An armed society is a polite society. Manners are good when one may have to back up his acts with his life.

      • Marine and Cop

        There are tens of thousands of Full auto firearms owned by private citizens. In the last 20 years only one was used by it’s owner to commit a crime? Now this could be because it’s so hard and expensive to get one, or it could be that those of us who do own them are generally the law abiding type. If you can pass the background, you should be able to own it. I know But…but what about grenades and RPG’s and Nuclear weapons, how about those? Weapons are different than ordnance dipstick. I own a grenade launcher and use it to fire flairs for search and Rescue. I can’t buy High explosive, incendiary or anti personnel ammo for it.

      • joe

        That “anybody” has already had them.All gun laws are in existence to control the law abiding…The Mexican drug cartels got everything they needed from Holder…

  • propel7

    A better idea would be to string up all the Globalist Banker satanists that have worked to subvert the American People and their blood bought Constitution. Cut off the head of the serpent. Destroy the source.

  • TexTopCat

    I support the law. However, I am very sad that such a law is needed to make the point the federal overreach is out of control.

  • BarkingDawg

    The Supremacy Clause makes this a foolish idea.

    • lilbear68

      if you read the full supremacy clause it states that the fed is supreme ONLY in the powers granted by the constitution. now what the fed has done in the past in many cases were not constitutional but the ppl and states more complacent then. not so much any more

      • BarkingDawg

        LOL. Yeah, right.

        Dream on, little cub, dream on

        • Justin Baines

          If enough states pass these laws and the Federal Government tries to invoke what you call the “Supremacy Clause” (which really doesn’t mean or do what you think it does little sheep)…. Do you know what will likely ensue… Remember what happened in 1861? And don’t think that the “Reconstruction Acts” are going to keep this slowly loosening Union together either.
          Get you head out of the sand…

          • BarkingDawg

            1861? Wasn’t that when a bunch if traitors tried to revolt?

            Are you a traitor to America, sir?

          • Justin Baines

            Depends on your point of view, and what you consider “America”. Last time I check America ment “We the people…” not “We the federal goverment”.

        • lilbear68

          at 67 and a vietnam vet dec68-june70 ill take that lil cub as a compliment but as your answer indicates you haven’t read the full supremacy clause so until you do STFU

          • BarkingDawg

            Ooooh, an internet tough guy.

            The theory of “nullification” has been specifically refuted by the Supreme Court in Cooper v. Arron.

            Since the Supreme Court is the final arbiter of what is constitutional in regards to the 2nd Amendment, this proposed law is pointless.

            Let me repeat that. The proposed law is pointless.

            It is an example of circular logic and is totally unenforceable.

          • lilbear68

            the scotus is not above error and has been reversed on occasion.
            another point is that nothing and no legislative power can remove any part of the constitution or the bill of rights. the only way to change the constitution is thru amendment and you wont see 38 states agree on anything in the forseeable future.
            and again until you have actually read the supremacy clause word for word you have no standing to speak so do yourself a favor and read about what you want to spout off about.
            a yappin cur has no class at all

          • Michael Lotfi

            So you like to cite case law huh? Good thing this bill says nothing about nullification and instead is an anticommandeering bill, which the SCOTUS has upheld 4 times in the past 180 years. But you’re the smart guy, I’m sure you already knew that.

          • BarkingDawg

            You are high.

          • Michael Lotfi

            Nice logical fallacy. Are you in fifth grade? Can you not rebut? Didn’t think so.

          • BarkingDawg

            There isn’t time left until the death of the universe and all the stars and gallaxies therein to finish rebutting the stupidity of your posts.

    • mcsegeek1

      The 10th Amendment is quite clear. If the power was not enumerated as belonging to the feds, it doesn’t belong to them. It is reserved to the States or the people — period. Just because the feds have ignored it for decades doesn’t mean it is not valid.

      • BarkingDawg

        The federal Government has the power to collect taxes.
        Just like the state government does.
        Why does the state of Texas charge sales taxes on firearms and ammunition?

  • BarkingDawg

    What would be the point? Gun dealers would still need to have federal licenses, regardless of what the state says.

    • Mitz Manuel

      You can make an SBR without a tax, you can buy suppressors without a tax and trust. Basically i can turn all my rifle into SBR with a suppressors and i would not have to pay a tax on every rifle and suppressor. This would save me roughly 6000 dollars.

      • BarkingDawg

        It’s a stupidity tax. (i.e. it is voluntary. You only have to pay it if you want to engage in certain types of activities)

        If you are that obsessed with your weapons, then you need to pay the tax.

        • mcsegeek1

          Who gets to decide what’s stupid? You? Who made you the arbiter? Freedom dictates that people should be left alone as long as they are not harming or infringing upon someone else.

    • mcsegeek1

      An FFL is an infringement on states rights, and a violation of the 10th Amendment. Let states make such laws — not the feds.

      • BarkingDawg

        FFL laws are valid under the Commerce Clause.

        People of Nevada are going to find it hard to play with their toys if they can’t buy parts and ammo from out of state.

  • BarkingDawg

    What about grenade launchers and RPGs?

    would this law make them legal in Nevada?

  • AsleepNoMore

    Sheriffs across the country have pledged to do the same. They belong to the Constitutional Sheriffs and Peace Officers Association (CSPOA). As the only member of law enforcement elected by We The People, sheriffs have the authority to tell the feds to back off and to force them to back off if necessary. This has been upheld by the Supreme Court.

  • Marine and Cop

    It’s a bold move and one that I hope works. I can see Idaho and others following.
    The 2nd Amendment was not written to guarantee citizens the right to hunt, or even protect ourselves from criminals, it was written specifically as a hedge against a tyrannical government. As far as I’m concerned, any weapon that the government reasonably believes they could use against citizens is/or should be fair game for ownership by the citizens to maintain their freedom. As for those idiots who proclaim “The 2nd Amendment was written at a different time and is antiquated and no longer needed”. I would remind them that the first 4 Amendments were written by the same group of men at the same time. To say one is antiquated is too say the others are equally suspect. Like your freedom of religion, the press, freedom from unlawful search? Don’t like the idea that the government can take part of your house for soldiers to live in? Take one down and the others will fall.

  • mcsegeek1

    Those of you who don’t like this bill ask yourselves a question: how else can a State protect their right under the 10th Amendment? Pass the law, let the feds challenge it in court, and watch the States win. Voila, the 10th Amendment is restored, and the concept of reserved and enumerated powers is reestablished.

    • BarkingDawg

      This is not a 10 th amendment issue. The federal government has the right to impose various taxes.

      There is not much chance that the states can successfully challenge that right.

      • TIMedWork

        Yet the imposition of various taxes is specified in the nation’s Constitution. Along with the provision that every citizen has a right to keep and bear arms, and that this right shall not be infringed.

        • BarkingDawg

          So why does the state of Texas charge sales taxes for guns and ammunition?

          • Average_Joe56

            Most likely, for the same reason that you keep asking …stupid questions…because you/they can.
            The last time that I checked, sales tax is not limited solely to the purchase of firearms…it applies to all goods (with certain exceptions). Therefore, it is not placing an undue burden on firearms buyers…anymore than it does someone who buys a new mower. That is after all within the “States” rights, with regards to raising revenue.
            The states do, however retain the right to nullify any and all laws set forth by the Federal Government…so long as it doesn’t interfere with commerce between states.

  • BarkingDawg

    From the text of the bill:

    A federal law, including a statute, an executive, administrative, or court order, or a rule, that infringes on a law-abiding citizen’s right to keep and bear arms under the Second Amendment to the United States Constitution or Section 23, Article I, Texas Constitution, is invalid and not enforceable in this state.

    =======
    This is rather pointless, since it is not up to the state to determine whether or not a federal law is constitutional.

    • lostshaker

      It is up to the States to determine the Constitutionality of a law and interpose/nullify any unconstitutional laws. The Founders discussed this point in the Federalist and Anti-Federalist Papers. Even big-government Alexander Hamilton cited nullification as a justifiable act.

      • BarkingDawg

        The states do not have the power to nullify Federal laws.

        • Michael Lotfi

          According to the Founders they certainly do. Unless you’re more intelligent than they were.

          • BarkingDawg

            Nope. This issue was settled at Appomattox in 1865.

  • JAM

    The legislature in Texas once again refused to pass open carry during their last legislative session, despite repeated calls by their constituents to do so. They always table it or vote it down. So many of the police abuse stories posted on sites like this occur in Texas. There is this “it can’t happen here” mentality that is so prevalent and so frustrating for those of us who can see what is really happening in Texas. This proposal is just “window dressing” leading up to the upcoming session to take away from things like open carry, so their horrible track record on that will hopefully go unnoticed. I’m willing to bet that neither will be passed or even brought up to a vote to begin with

    • TIMedWork

      Interesting point

  • Marilyn5555

    WHY do they need a bill for something that’s already supposed to be a “GIVEN” by the constitution?

    • lilbear68

      because back in the day the states and people were much more complacent and now we have to take what what is ours and put the govt in its place as our employee
      and the rights are not given to us they are ours that we demanded before letting the govt exist

      • TIMedWork

        Your explanation is just what was discussed, and why they wrote the 2nd Amendment: To give the citizen the unfettered means to defend against an overreaching government, in an effort to prevent tyranny, knowing that absolute power corrupts, as we see beginning to happen today.

    • Truth

      The constitution doesn’t give rights (and actually, in my opinion it infringes on many of them). It simply prohibits the government from trampling certain rights that people already naturally have (something which all government is naturally prohibited from doing anyway… the second amendment secures the right to bear arms not because it’s a law, but because it is simply a morally right thing to do anyway). The real question in my mind is why governments ever think they can do the wrong thing until a law stops them.

  • LibertyChick

    They need to expand that to cover any federal rule/regulation that imposes on any Constitutional right of a citizen. When that happens, I’m moving to TX. Hope the rest of the states follow suit…

    • BarkingDawg

      Please list some of those laws and the specific constitutional right that the particular law is infringing on.
      Thanks

  • Karolyn

    It is up to the states to nullify laws the government makes that are not Constitutional; why don’t they do just that? Nullify ALL of the laws the government demands up to and including Obamacare. The role of government is SUPPOSED to be small and only to protect our life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Most politicians are worthless to say the least.

    • BarkingDawg

      I think that the concept of nullification was defeated at Appomattox.

      • Average_Joe56

        And… we are starting to think that you are an opinionated, idiot.

        Since you spout off, with nothing to back your opinions (other than more of your opinions)…
        I’d have to say…We Win!

        It has become painfully obvious from your list of posts…that you don’t actually “Think” at all.

        I remain,
        Un-apologetically Opinionated

  • Gardentoolnumber5

    In a well constituted republic the federal government should be going after the States which violate the 2nd Amendment. How far we’ve fallen.

  • BarkingDawg

    The logic behind this bill is somewhat flawed.
    From the text of the bill:

    ” . . .the legislature rejects any claim that the taxing and spending powers of Congress can be used to diminish in any way the right of the people to keep and bear arms.”

    If this is the case, then why does the state of Texas charge a sales tax for firearms and ammunition?

    • Michael Lotfi

      Because the Bill doesn’t reference the Texas Constitution. It references the Federal Constitution.

      • BarkingDawg

        So the bill claims that it is unconstitutional for the federal government to tax gun sales, but it’s ok for the state to do it?

        How do you possibly come to that conclusion?

        • Michael Lotfi

          The 2nd Amendment (and the rest of the BoR) applies to federal law only. Not state law.

          • BarkingDawg

            So, if , as you put it,
            The 2nd Amendment (and the rest of the BoR) applies to federal law only. Not state law, “
            then a state would be able to pass a law making it illegal to own any firearms at all. Is that really your argument?

            You might want to reconsider that.

          • Average_Joe56

            “then a state would be able to pass a law making it illegal to own any firearms at all. Is that really your argument?”

            This is the crux of the argument.

            Please take the time (as someone else mentioned) to educate yourself on our system of government.

            Unless your name can be found on the U.S. Constitution, you are not a party to the contract…period. The Constitution is a contract between the Federal Government and the “States” and their (State) citizens. The Constitution tells the Federal Government…what they (the Feds) can and cannot do. Nowhere in the document (nor it’s amendments) does the U.S. Constitution tell the states what they can or cannot do…period.
            If you believe otherwise, feel free to post the language (verbatim), from the document in question. Failure to do so, will tell us at least one of three things:
            (1) The language doesn’t exist in the document.
            (2) You don’t have a clue as to what you speak of.
            (3) You are too lazy to do the research for yourself and admit that you are clueless.
            (Most likely..all of the above)
            Now, the ball is firmly in your court…put up …or shut up.

            Whining isn’t pretty…don’t do it.
            Either do as asked…or talk to someone who gives a crap…about your opinions.
            I remain,
            Un-apologetically Opinionated

  • Bob

    good luck with that. I wouldn’t want to be the “chump” who gets caught in the middle between the state and the feds prosecuting you. YOu know that it would bankrupt you!

    • BarkingDawg

      That is the practical failure here.

      No gun dealer is going to risk his FFL by not collecting applicable
      taxes.

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  • William Amos

    Good for Texas……….The Federal Government doesn’t need to be paid for our rights to be valid. This is only one form of rights extortion. These types of political stances for our basic rights are way over due. We have been infringed upon and pushed around long enough. Other States should be taking notes instead of kissing A$$. Too many cushy jobs at stake is the problem. (Buddy and Check Shrouding).

    • BarkingDawg

      What about the state collecting taxes on firearms?

      • William Amos

        Good Point. I think States Piggy-Back on Federal infringements in some cases. In others, the Federal Government threatens to withhold Highway Funds or cancel Aid Programs if States do not comply with their wishes. Extortion!

        • BarkingDawg

          Well if sales taxes are unconstitutional librations on the 2nd Amendment, what would be covered?

          Firearms
          Ammo
          Swords, pikes, lances,
          Knives, dirks, machetes,
          Billy clubs, blackjacks, baseball bats, axes, grenade launchers, F-16s,
          Bows, arrows, tomahawks ( hand held), tomahawks (missiles), claymores (both kinds), Katanas, switchblades, maces, suitcase nukes. Swiss Army knives.

          Etc.

          • William Amos

            You forgot old age….lol. They better tax that too, I hear it can kill you also. The point is, this country has entirely too many reasons to be taxed. Without representation! Always slid in under the radar. Scammy, and greedy. Wasted money! All for appeasing Central Banks. What other private business has Federal Power like the Federal Reserve or the IRS? None! They are about as Federal as Federal Express. Scam!

          • BarkingDawg

            I also forgot chainsaws. It is Texas, after all.

          • William Amos

            and Hormonal Wives…….Very dangerous! I’d rather tangle with my chainsaw….LMAO!

          • BarkingDawg

            Especially if they are exercising their right to bare arms by wearing a sleeveless top.

  • grendal113

    Do it let’s get this passed. Then we can have home state full auto weapons. Ill put half my shop to only home state products.

  • BarkingDawg

    This is all a moot discussion as this bill will not get out of commitee.

    It’s nothing more than a grandstand play.

    • Chris Sea-la

      “In Idaho, the Legislature unanimously passed a law this year to keep any future federal gun measures from being enforced in the state. In Kansas, a law passed last year says federal regulation doesn’t apply to guns manufactured in the state. Wyoming, South Dakota and Arizona have had laws protecting “firearms freedom” from the U.S. government since 2010.

      Analysis shows 11 such bills in nine states have been signed into law, mainly in Western states, along with Kansas and Tennessee.”

      http://www.nbcnews.com/news/investigations/butt-out-state-legislatures-move-nullify-federal-gun-laws-n185326

      So…. You are wrong about it ability to pass.

      • BarkingDawg

        The State of Texas couldn’t even get a firearms sales tax holiday passed.

        The states can not nullify federal laws.

        Gun dealers will not jeopardize their FFL licenses.

        all of this is a lot of sound and fury, signifying nothing.

        • Ken Fletcher

          “The states can not nullify federal laws.” That statement alone shows just how ignorant you are about our system of government. The reality is, the states can nullify federal laws. And they have. Here. Educate yourself….. http://tenthamendmentcenter.com/2014/08/02/kentucky-and-virginia-resolutions-guideposts-of-limited-government/

          • BarkingDawg

            Wrong.

            But go ahead. Continue with your silly fantasy.

          • Ken Fletcher

            I’ve given you factual information that you reject out of hand – and you probably didn’t even look at. But go ahead and continue with your ignorance. Barking Dog seems to fit you well.

  • Raul

    FULL AUTO WHEN

  • All or nothing

    Now, if they would just get rid of that unconstitutional clause someone put into the State Constitution back in the 1860′s which give the State Legislature control over what kind of guns can be carried and how. Open carry of pistols is forbidden. Let’s get it ALL!

  • El Tejanito

    What idiots! This bill is taking us back to the days of John C. Calhoun and the nullification crises. We all know what came next, right?

  • Storm

    Senoir little Texan you are so full of it! Please sit down and shut up. The but breath is distracting and distasteful.