Rep. Massie on shocking 9/11 documents: “It challenges you to re-think everything”

By: Joshua Cook
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Rep. Massie: "It challenges you to re-think everything. I think the whole country needs to go through that."

In March Benswann.com reported that Reps. Thomas Massie (R-KY), Walter Jones (R-NC), and Stephen F. Lynch (D-MA), , along with families who lost loved ones on Sept. 11, 2001, urged the president to declassify 28 pages from the 9/11 congressional investigation report, providing more information to the general public.


 

On Friday Rep. Massie commented on his Facebook page:

“Before we involve ourselves in #Iraq, Congressmen and their constituents need to know more about the events leading up to 9/11. Understanding what enabled this tragedy to occur is fundamental to drafting a strategy for the Middle East.

That’s why I joined families of 9/11 victims and Congressman Walter Jones and Congressman Stephen Lynch at a press conference to promote the release of 28 classified pages from an official 9/11 report. Based on my reading of the documents, I am confident that making these 28 pages public would not damage our national security.”

During a press conference in March Rep. Massie said, “As I read it, and we all had our own experience, I had to stop every couple of pages and just sort of try to absorb and try to rearrange my understanding of history. “It challenges you to re-think everything. I think the whole country needs to go through that.”

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  • JEM

    When do we get the 28 pages?

    • http://www.twitter.com/triordan TJ

      I think the best way to get this would be to send a request to Snowden ;-)

      • tyrannynewsadmin

        Unfortunately, I suspect Snowden isn’t as real as we hoped he would be. The tell-tale sign for us all was when he was cast away in that Russian airport. Hundreds of reporters flew in to at least get a photo or even a comment. They were there for weeks, but Snowden never appeared. Although, every day our US media reported on him and noted his location. Sound legitimate? It’s a problem and a big one if people are resting their hopes on this guy.

        • JEM

          I agree. He’s just a useful idiot for the Marxist NWO elites.

      • JEM

        What I find interesting is how our government really does not show much concern about Snowden. Do you not think this guy would have met his end by now or a long time ago if our nefarious government wanted this guy eliminated. I think it’s a dog and pony show; political theatre. Everything is deception today. How do we know what to believe other than looking at the fruits of their efforts?

    • http://www.iamnotanonymousblog.com/ I am not anonymous blog.

      You can read edited versions of some of it right here on Ben’s site. Basically high profile Saudi Arabian business people are directly tied to it, and no real evidence of Afghanistan or Iraq involvement. As the video said. You’ll have to rethink everything the government said.

      • JEM

        Do you believe anything anymore? It is possible concerning the Saudi businessmen but I surely do not believe they were the only ones involved, including that of our own government; CIA; Jesuits. I think the list goes on. It was an important ritual or agenda item for the NWO. Look what the results brought. A government beast.

  • Liberty or Death

    So, basically, he is saying the “government” told us LIES and is trying to cover it up. Tell us something we don’t already know. It’s too bad Snowden didn’t have this information for release too. Another whistle blower is what is needed. No, an army of whistle blowers is what is needed.

    • ProfessorPBZ

      We agree 100%, Liberty etc.

    • Noah Figg

      Preferrably whistleblowers who actually release the material they have to the public, not sell it to the highest bidder, who will hold onto it, make a deal with a billionaire to form a new media enterprise, and get a book contract to release some exclusive info. More than a year later, we are still waiting for the actual whistleblowing to be completed.

  • Tara Lynch Zuccaro

    They need to tell us fast before we get caught up in another Mideast war. Come on Obama and Holder you are worried about another terrorist attack like 911 from ISIS so at least tell us who is really behind it all. We desperately need to have this information and the hour is getting late.

  • Arkad

    Google News search for “Thomas Massie 9/11 commission” yields ZERO results. How can something this important receive such little attention?

    • LibertyORdeath

      Because they can control web hit counts and search queries and delete them if they so choose. Anything to keep the sheep asleep.

  • ledberg

    So does this mean everyone who called us conspiracy theorists will be apologizing?

    • Bill Nada

      No. It says nothing about inside jerb.

      • tyrannynewsadmin

        It may not, but at least it says horribly irreversible government of criminality. And, in a round-a-bout way it may inform us why all of them, including Colin Powell are on the take with off-shore holdings directly connected to their roles in 9/11. So, I guess you could say it was a “paying job.”

        • Bill Nada

          No, it doesn’t say that either.

    • WindSockMedia

      It’s not about any of the truthers nonsense. It’s about the feds covering up who was really behind it to keep peace with the Saudi’s.

      • http://foehammer.com Foehammer

        Truthers “nonsense” and you still think that the Saudis pulled off 9-11. /facepalm over here. I do that a lot nowadays. Yeah, the Saudis got put on planes by our govt, relatives of bin Laden himself, the World’s Formerly Most Wanted Man. Don’t keep any relatives as collateral or anything, no, just get ‘em on planes and out of here before Americans were even allowed to fly again. And then there were those controlled demos at the 3 (not 2) World Trade Center buildings. Those ingenious Saudis somehow got access months in advance, setup perfect advanced munitions and “nobody” noticed?

        Here’s a bridge for sale.

        • http://www.pixelgeddon.com/ Shane Stevens

          Don’t worry, even if it were proved beyond a shadow of a doubt, people like WindSockMedia would simply shake their heads and go back to sleep until the next ‘conspiracy’ arises to wake them from their slumber just long enough to call anyone who questions the official story a ‘truther’.

          These are the same people who said NSA surveillance and spying on Americans was conspiracy; now they just pretend that they never thought so and move on to the next thing that MUST certainly be a conspiracy…until it isn’t. They never truly wake up from their slumber other than for brief moments of clarity followed by denial. They are quite literally worse pretenders than Agent Scully.

        • WindSockMedia

          Blah blah blah, building 7 etc….
          Yes, and a missile ping ponged off three light poles before hitting the Pentagon.
          Every argument the truthers have come up has been debunked.
          But now that something that’s true comes up, thanks to you wingnuts, it won’t get the attention it deserves.

  • J. Nev

    Over 40 experts in high-rise architecture, structural engineering, metallurgy, chemistry, physics, explosives, and controlled demolition share their professional expertise and insights about the events of 9/11. Additionally, 8 psychological experts discuss why proving controlled demolition of the three World Trade Center skyscrapers can be so difficult for individuals to accept.

    http://video.pbs.org/video/2270078138

  • J. Nev

    Bush Caught Lying About September 11th
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sm73wOuPL60

  • J. Nev

    Did you know a 3rd tower fell on 9/11?
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNR6Kbg5jJ8

  • J. Nev

    Five Dancing Israelis Arrested On 9/11
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRfhUezbKLw

  • ProfessorPBZ

    Most of us read between the lines of the people involved in that administration, which Bush Sr. called “The Crazies” and knew what was going on. As an architect who was watching the news that day, wondered why fighter plains were not scrambled to intercept after the crash of the first plane. Later when the buildings collapsed, as an architect, I knew that because the planes hit above the Center of Gravety of the buildings, sans any explosives applied to the “Foundational Infrastructure” there is now way they would cascade or topple over.. Now let us see what the papers say. I hope it is not as fictional as was the “WARREN REPORT”.

    • signalfire1

      An architect who can’t spell gravity???

      • ;lakjdfl;kja;kldj

        Or fighter “plains”

      • Sarah Thrace

        Or that thinks the center of gravity has any significance in the structural integrity of a building which has no superstructure which extends over the perimeter of the foundation.

        Architects don’t do technical designs like sky scrapers and aren’t really any more qualified to comment on the collapse than the guy that makes your coffee in the morning.

        • http://www.pixelgeddon.com/ Shane Stevens

          And from where, pray tell, do you derive your expertise on what architects do and do not know? Fox News, perhaps?

          • Sarah Thrace

            I’d guess its from having a degree in construction engineering with an emphasis in structures that was part of an Architecture/Architectural Engineering/Construction Engineering curriculum.

            Really anyone that has a basic understanding of physics and the theory of structures can deduce that the plane strike in relation to the vertical center of gravity isn’t particularly relevant to the collapse of the towers.

          • ☢ Andrew ∆ James ☢

            Did they teach you how scattered office fires could drop a 47-floor skyscraper (World Trade Center Tower 7), which contained the hardened NYPD command center? NIST’s explanation for the collapse of WTC7 seems laughable at best… #thermalexpansion.

            The close-up footage of the WTC7 collapse clearly shows demolition charges/squibs going off, up the side of the building, prior to collapse. Unbiased demolition experts shown the footage, have no doubt about it. Anyone with a pulse… can see this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0wZ3Gm0s5c Never forget. NO planes hit this building. Several witnesses (including the late Barry Jennings) reported multiple bombs had gone off in WTC7, well before the towers even collapsed. BBC reported on the collapse of WTC7 almost an hour early… while it was still smoldering in the background. None of these events were deemed important enough to be mentioned in the 9/11 Commission report.

          • digler

            Have you tried contacting said claim makers to get some sort of official response That you could then share with us?
            An inquisitive email perhaps?

    • Frankie “da scarf”

      The question about Bush Sr. is, what part of the JFK assassination did he have a part in?

      • Winston

        Probably the whole part. I have a picture of him standing outside the book depository that they say Ozzie did the evil deed from. Bush denies emphatically he was there. I could never believe those Bushes (and George Herbert Walker) as they were supportive, along with other elite like Henry Ford (Hitler loved Ford because Ford hated Jews) and W. Averell Harriman, in Hitler’s Nazi agenda. Morgan, Warburg and Rothschild too.

        • Frankie “da scarf”

          I remember you sending me that picture!

  • guest investigator

    With a little digging, apparently the foreign help they received was from Saudi Arabia; monetarily, as well as logistically. Not low level, either. But top government officials. Saudi Arabia is supposedly an ally of ours, for those who believe in that sort of thing.

    • guest investigator
    • http://foehammer.com Foehammer

      The same Saudi Arabia that continues to profit from all our interventions over the past decade? That Saudi Arabia? The same one that’s making backroom deals with Israel?

      • FalconMoose

        Yep.

      • Winston

        If you believe that, I’ve got a bridge I’d like to sell you. Back room deals with Israel? Do you think Israel would be stupid enough to fall for that with a civilization who is known for their lies and deceits and bloodthirsty ruthlessness not to mention its vile hatred for the Jews? Who would believe that? Arabs are double crossers and always have been. They mean what they say about eliminating Jews and Christians. They’re not kidding. God even prophesied these events in the Bible in the Old Testament up to 700 years BEFORE Jesus’ birth that the hatred would become so intense among these Arab countries in our time toward Israel that He’s memorialized numerous warnings for the Jews in the Bible. Perhaps you haven’t noticed in Ezekiel 38 concerning the Gog-Magog war which is coming shortly, that the only countries that God destroys in this end times war are muslim countries. You don’t think the Jews have read this before? Even if they’ve become secularized, you don’t forget prophecies like that especially when you see them unfolding before your eyes.

        • Undecider

          There are many backroom deals. There’s the world that exists and then the world you think you know. Iran, Israel, USA, Britain, Saudi Arabia, etc. They present one show to the world while hiding another. Take the USS Liberty attack, for example. US and Israel working together. Beirut Barracks bombing, Israel-Iranian-US operation. This is why you never trust government.

  • signalfire1

    Has the good Congressman wised up to the fact that 9-11 was a nuclear event?? I don’t know what’s in those 28 pages, but the Saudis being involved has been obvious from the git-go, since the ‘hijackers’ (probably patsies) were Saudis for the most part. And while thermite may have been involved as a beam-cutter esp. in the basements, there is PROOF BEYOND ANY DOUBT that fission was involved in bringing down the buildings; we’ve had these weapons for decades now and they are controllable as to yield and radiation signature. The work done by Jeff Prager proves it without any doubt. See his FB page (Jeff Prager, Notes section) for the full read. I’d post a link but he gets ’404′d regularly, while Steven Jones’ limited hangout on thermite is all over the web. Interesting, that. The truth requires digging.

    And oh, by the way – a government that would nuke a city once would do it again in a heartbeat if their agenda required it; bet on it. The terrorists are in the Pentagon, Congress and the White House, not necessarily in that order. We really don’t have to worry about people in caves a half a globe away, unless you want to consider well-deserved blowback.

    • John Appleseed

      you do realize there was no evidence of radioactivity… you are a nut job

      • whogvesadamn

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=qZomMV4BVVU hey watch this before you go name calling john appledweeb.

      • whogvesadamn

        About a minute 50 seconds in Why is that guy wearing that radioactive garb?

      • A great teacher

        Did you perform the test yourself at the site or do you just believe everything you read or are told? Unless you were there to observe the results first hand, I’d think you’d have realized by now that ANYTHING is possible. No need for name calling simply because you don’t like his post…

  • Escher

    I wonder if those 28 pages will contain information on how WTC7 collapsed, or what actually happened at the Pentagon…

    • Winston

      The WTC7 was outfitted with explosives and fell in a controlled demolition. This is an area of great experience for me. That is what happened to it period. The Pentagon was not hit by a plane. No plane parts ever found nor was the damage able to be matched with the size of a plane. There was no plane parts found in Pennsylvania either. There are plenty of good books on this top. Look at “The Most Dangerous Book in the World.” Very telling.

      • Mr. Mike

        I was an iron worker for over 20 years. The day I saw those towers fall I said it was only by demolition. These towers had 26 columns each, welded solid from bottom to top. These columns walls were 4 inches thick. For 26 columns to just collapse is literally impossible. The jet fuel they try to claim heated the steel and weakoned it, all burned up on impact. Look at the fireball when they hit the towers. Firemen in the buildings that day said that molten steel was flowing like in a foundry. You could see molten steel flowing out of the building. Jet fuel dose not get hot enough to melt steel. Check out ‘Architects and Engineers for 911 truth’ documentary.

        • Thomas Haddix

          thank you.. straight down into its own foot print is almost impossible to achieve without a lot of engineering going into it .. and we are supose to believe it not only happened once but 3 times that day .. even if jet fuel got hot enough to melt steel… it would have leaned one way well the side with the most heat .. it would have been noticeably leaning for a good while before the rest of the steel let go…

        • Estavancruz

          WTC 7 fell after reporter said it did, and experts say it looked EXACTLY like a controlled demo. Navy SEAL members explained they could wire a building to explode like that in a couple of hours so it is in the realm of possibility.

        • JEM

          Yes, I know these things of which you speak and you are correct but frankly, they went down as if it was a controlled demolition. I am reasonably certain based on the mechanics of engineering for those buildings that neither building in their entirety should not have gone down the way it happened. In reality, this false flag event was not even conducted that well but most people are well. . . ignorant I’m afraid.
          Read that book I mentioned in my previous post. Even if you don’t agree with everything in it, it will make you think more critically. Had that event not been controlled, it would have played out differently, very differently. Also WTC7 is just a joke as well as the pentagon and no plane parts in Pennsylvania.

          If we are this ineffective at protecting our own airspace (which of course I don’t believe since we have the best technology in the world), then there is no hope for us. Everything critical for the past 100 years is manipulated by an unseen hand.

          Consider this, father Bush gives a speech about the NWO on September 11, 1990; on September 11, 2001 we have the 9/11 incident; on September 11, 2012 we have the Benghazi incident. Do you not find this very coincidental all these things happened on September 11 all of which are 11 years apart??? As FDR said, there are no coincidences in politics.

          • Undecider

            The Pennsylvania plane (Flight 93) was shot down and there was a three mile long debris field.

      • Undecider

        Regarding the Pentagon, there was some type of aircraft involved but it wasn’t a large commercial airliner. I know people where were there at the time. Pennsylvania? That one was shot down and that’s already been leaked publicly.

  • John

    Wouldn’t surprise me if it involved the “wealthy Israeli international businessman” too.

    • Winston

      I’d say it was more likely that father and son Bush are involved as well as the CIA and Jesuits, not to mention the alphabet groups trying to control the world and their puppet masters, the central bankers and corporatists. Boy you Jew haters really have that tiny country of Israel busy scheming all over the world considering they can barely keep themselves alive and functioning given the defense they have to muster because of the Islamic scum that surrounds them. It’s more likely the unworthy Jew-hating Jews in OUR country would be behind it–those in the media, academia and government. Those are the Jews from the synagogue of satan. God will rebuke you for being such a hater of his people and land.

      Or perhaps you’re just one of the morons that incites hatred online by your scathing comments on behalf of Herr Fuhrer in the district of corruption.

      • Noah Figg

        They’re in the mix just like everyone else. I think due to the psychological effect caused by the holocaust, Israel has a powerful tool of deflection for their actions, thus they are a useful tool of the general power network. “The ___ is responsible,” when that blank is filled with some general ethnic, profession or class is probably not going to be accurate, since it takes a variety people to work together to accomplish behind-the-scenes political control. So, I think neither apologizing for nor singling out the country is warranted. They fit right into the immoral, irrational global order, they just have particularly unique moral deflection ability due to the repression of their people by that same order in a previous era. I think that draws attention to it by those who figure if the political leaders have to keep lying that everyone is out to get them, they probably aren’t up to that much good.

  • whogvesadamn

    Just look up the definition of ground zero in a dictionary copy before 9/11.

  • whogvesadamn

    Oh and research operation northwoods for a start .

  • RobertFallin

    If Massie cared about his “loved ones,” he should have questioned 911 from the start, as I did and as did LA MONDE, the French magazine.

  • Frankie “da scarf”

    Pearl Harbor anyone?

    • Winston

      You got that right.

  • Claire C

    What worries me about the ‘truth coming out’ is that they’ve had a very long time to get their story straight…

    • Undecider

      The truth will never come out. Too much is riding on the lies.

  • michaelrivero

    This is a repeat of a hoax that was tried two years ago, trying to tease everyone to want to see this document. But the document is a hoax that lays the blame for 9-11 at the feet of the Saudis to protect Israel.

    The official story of 9-11 is collapsing almost as fast as the Obamacare website. Most Americans are now well aware of the strange collapse of WTC Building 7, the video that captures the sound of the actual explosion that initiates the collapse of WTC7, the very strange behavior of the Secret Service as President Bush read
    about goats at Booker Elementary School. We have all seen the photographs that confirm the remains of demolition “cutter charges” in the remains of the towers. And we all know how the BBC reported that Building 7 collapsed 26 minutes before it actually happened. indicating a script was being followed (but alas, not carefully enough).

    With the official story in free fall, Americans are wondering just who did this heinous deed. With the US Government itself the prime suspect, many are asking if the US
    Government had help from an outside nation, one with a long track record of world-changing dirty tricks.

    There is a great deal of evidence that implicates the nation of Israel as a co-conspirator with the Bush administration. First, there was the massive Israeli spy ring uncovered in the United States just before 9-11, and how some of the “Dancing
    Israelis” arrested after being seen cheering and dancing as the World Trade Towers collapsed turned out to be Mossad spies! Then there was the strange case of Odigo, an Israeli-owned company whose New York offices received a warning about the attacks before the planes used in the attacks had even left the ground! All four of the hijacked planes departed from airport gates whose security was provided by the same Israeli security company. Israel has a long track record of playing dirty tricks against the United States and other countries, including the Lavon affair (framed on Egypt), Israel’s attack on the USS Liberty (initially framed on Egypt), and Israel’s smuggling a radio transmitter into Libya that was used to send fake messages that tricked President Reagan into bombing Libya.

    As people start to seriously examine the plethora of evidence regarding Israel’s numerous perfidies it comes as no surprise that recently we have seen Israel’s “useful idiots” launch a propaganda campaign to claim that Saudi Arabia was behind the 9-11 attacks, based on a lawsuit brought against Saudi Arabia by the families of the victims, and a secret report that Representatives Stephen F. Lynch and Walter B. Jones are demanding be made public; a report that purportedly claims Saudi arabia was behind 9-11. But anyone can bring a lawsuit against anyone for anything. That does not mean the lawsuit allegations are true. Nonsense lawsuits are a reality of the modern US court system, as are lawsuits staged primarily as political and propaganda stunts, which is what this appears to be. Likewise, the report the Representatives wish to make public appears to be the US Government’s attempt to “get ahead of the ball” and craft a new lie to replace the one that has failed. At the very least these two pieces of propaganda are intended to deflect interest away from Israel. At worst, it is the start of the campaign to justify military invasion of that country, just as Saddam’s nuclear weapons were the excuse to invade Iraq, and the more recently (and thankfully failed) attempt to justify
    invasion of Syria by claiming Syria’s government was gassing their own people.

    As I have mentioned before, the best way to tell if you are being lied to is to look for what should be there but isn’t. In the case of the claim that Saudi Arabia was behind 9-11, what should be there and isn’t is a motive for Saudi Arabia to do something
    like that. George Bush had a motive to do 9-11. He needed that “new Pearl Harbor” to enrage Americans into the century of war called for by the Project For The New American Century. Israel certainly had a motive to do 9-11 and frame Muslims for it, to trick Americans into siding with Israel’s continued land grabs and wars against Israel’s enemies, with Israel’s agenda being (as it was with the Lavon affair, the USS Liberty, and the Libyan radio hoax) that Americans fight those wars for them!

    Saudi Arabia does not have a history of dirty tricks, nor a demonstrated ability to carry out such deceptions. More to the point, Saudi Arabia has no motive to attack the United States. The Saudi princes have grown very rich indeed through the Petrodollar arrangement. Saudi Arabia buys many American products and weapons ($61 billion in 2011), and unlike Israel, the American taxpayer does not have to give them the money first with which to buy those weapons. Whereas Israel constantly takes money out of the US, the Saudis pour it in! Private Saudi investment in the US economy is over $400 billion. Saudi Arabia is a major creditor to the US Government. Exact figures are hard to find but Saudi Arabia has loaned the US Government hundreds of billions of dollars.

    Saudi Arabia is not going to risk an attack on the US because all that wealth would vanish. The Saudi wealth inside the US would be frozen or seized, and the outstanding loans to the US would never be repaid. The “useful idiots” trying to save Israel by blaming 9-11 on Saudi Arabia have yet to come up with a motive for the
    Saudis to do something like 9-11 that risks losing all that cash.

    Remember that Saudi Arabia was being framed for 9-11 right from the start. One of the accused hijackers, a Saudi Pilot named Saeed Al-Ghamdi, was still alive after 9-11 and sued the US Government for defaming him.

    And finally, here is some common sense that totally undermines the attempt to frame Saudi Arabia for 9-11. If Saudi Arabia really wanted to hurt the United States, they don’t need to fly airplanes into skyscrapers to do it. All they have to do is ask for their money back, all at once. The resulting damage to the US financial system would make 9-11 look like a minor inconvenience in comparison.

    And it would be perfectly legal for Saudi Arabia to ask for their money back.

    Which is why we know that the claim that Saudi Arabia was behind 9-11 has no more basis in fact than the claim that Saddam had nuclear weapons or that Assad gassed his own people right in front of the UN chemical weapons inspectors.

    As the media tries to blame Saudi Arabia for 9-11, it is worth recalling that the Bush administration initially claimed that Iraq was behind 9-11 to sell the 2003 invasion, then later admitted Iraq had actually been innocent. So there is a pattern of the US simply using 9-11 as a “one size fits all” excuse to invade yet another oil rich nation.

    At the very least, even if you accept the new claim that Saudi Arabia was behind 9-11, then it means the US Government was lying when they claimed Afghanistan and then Iraq were behind it! So why would you trust them now?

  • SoundMind

    Conspiracy theories are going a bit too far here. We know that Islam believes America is the great satan, and conspired to carry out this attack. President Bush didn’t do this, and neither did Israel.

    • Thomas Haddix

      Are you serious ?
      yes im not a fan of islam either but please open your eyes and see it for what it is/was.. these people are pure evil as well greed and the love of money has did this not islam.. this was an idea they come up with ion the 70′s and finally someone pulled off
      google operation northwoods…please its all i ask..

      • SoundMind

        I found an article on operation northwoods on wikipedia. You are confusing me with facts. Now I feel like the fun merry-go-round ride I once boarded has become a trap and I can’t get off…and I sure as heII don’t know who’s at the controls. Operation pop-soundmind’s bubble worked. But I’m not going to thank you for it.

        • Nancy Keeler

          Here are some more facts: http://www.businessinsider.com/true-government-conspiracies-2013-12 Do not underestimate our government. Remember the Tonkin Gulf incident wasn’t real either. I know it is painful during the awakening SoundMind, I’ve been there.

          • SoundMind

            I didn’t say the northwoods article was fact. Wiki is a liberal site. It exposed a proposal that was not carried out… maybe even cost JFK his life, for all I know. I’m not going to proceed like Scully and Muldar and doubt everything and trust no one, because even if the worst were true, I still can’t do much to stop a ‘shadowy’ government. The gov’t is just too dang big. I just wish there was an army of Edward Snowdens out there.

            I’ll be checking out your link. Thanks for your reply.

          • Nancy Keeler

            Yes, the govt is “too dang big”. That’s why we must fight to make it smaller. Thank you for your open mind.

          • Mark Meyers

            Critical information skills don’t come with praising or condemning secondary sources; they come with being specific, and looking at the sources referenced within. It is well documented that tens of thousands of wiki edits, which always records the IP addresses of its editors, come from government agencies and corporate offices. The Wikipedia may be a good place to start, but it’s a really bad place to finish. For whatever sources you use, they should at least state their sources, for real inquiry. I have tracked down Wiki references to find bogus support for statements made within. Eventually, it gets to primary sources, and not secondary ones, like all periodical writing. I also can’t agree with calling sources good or bad based upon political ideology. I do not use ideology for validation when applying critical skills.

          • SoundMind

            Thanks for your input, Mark. When I searched via Ixquick, the only other hits on the first page were for golf clubs. Wiki had a pdf of the signed cover page of northwoods project, as well as great details of the content. It didn’t take much perusing to realize that covert powers within the U.S. were proposing devious means to attain their goals. I saw chilling parallels with the Reichstag fire.

            IMHO the judge is still out until we see those 28 pages. How can we guess what’s in them? We can’t.

          • Mark Meyers

            You’ve got me to look at the WIki page. Looks like its completely declassified at this point – it’s old enough. You might find Michael Rivero’s comment in this list of comments very interesting also. Finding the Saudis means finding people who can find Islamic extremists, but I have spent so much more time on the topic of 9/11 on the past 10 years. Anyhow, everything Rivero is talking about can be googled. For some really fantastic info on the WTC collapses, you might like this video, with excellent cast… https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YW6mJOqRDI4 Cheers.

    • Undecider

      Are you referring to the part of Islam that works for the CIA? Those fools don’t operate without Pentagon direction.

      • SoundMind

        I am referring to Muslims who believe the Koran and live to faithfully fulfill its directives for world domination. You know, jihadists, the ones who feel no guilt when they take off peoples’ heads, the ones who are at war with–and have sworn to kill–everyone who doesn’t succumb to their doctrine…followers of Muhamed and Allah…those guys.

  • Ray

    Well I’d be intrigued to see what’s in these supposedly “shocking” documents. It’s obvious the official conspiracy theory is a huge farce, but anything coming from the government is immediately suspect…obviously.

    • Thomas Haddix

      its probably NIOSH saying they dont understand how jet fuel melted steel in the first place considering the temp. to do so was not even close… its a fact..
      please Google operation northwoods, they had a plan to do something similar back in the 70′s and they allowed this to happen if they wasnt behind it in the first place. The question is what is or should be done about it…

      http://rethink911.org/evidence-building-7-twin-towers/#pagecontent

    • Ansky

      The official version of what happened is also a theory.
      The fact that no one is allowed to challenge it tells a lot.

  • Antodav

    Yes, post this article with such a provocative, out-of-context title, to give the conspiracy-mongers even more fodder to feed on. God forbid anyone should ever come to understand blowback and the consequences of bad American foreign policy. We should just curl up into the quiet safety of our delusional fantasies instead. I thought Ben Swann was about quality journalism, not sensationalistic mendacity. This is of a level of quality on par with Fox News.

    • JimmyC

      How can you make your statement without reading the 28 pages of classified material? Or are you an authority on the subject?

    • http://www.iamnotanonymousblog.com/ I am not anonymous blog.

      Did you listen to what Massie said? They’re kept in complete secret. He couldn’t even take a pen. He told you very direct it’s not what you’ve been told. That should be enough to make you see the real problem, and the problem isn’t Ben Swann. One of the few people actually reporting this. Where’s the beloved Fox news?

    • Estavancruz

      Antodav, you know the same as I-what we saw, and what we were told. Apparently, somebody who knows more than us is telling us something, maybe you should uncover your eyes and ears and listen before popping off?

    • Nancy Keeler

      You are right about our bad foreign policy, but do not underestimate our govt. Many “conspiracies” have turned out to be true. http://www.businessinsider.com/true-government-conspiracies-2013-12

    • Mike TheVet

      “Conspiracy-mongers”

      You can’t even talk about a subject without name calling? Just speak to the questions and stop attacking the messenger. It’s been done about a thousand times….yesterday.

    • Trader Gang

      You’re a Mormon. I think that weakened your argument quickly.

      • MacFly1

        well, you’re a moron, so well, the same.

    • Undecider

      Who attacked us because of blowback? “Blowback” refers to a foreign entity taking some kind of revenge. When the activity comes from within, is it still blowback?

      • MacFly1

        Well, that comes later, after our reaction (Iraq, Libya, Syria, training and equipping ISIS to fight the U.S. trained and equipped Iraqi army so somebody can make lots of money selling weapons, etc.) to our blowback.

    • dar

      Do you watch a lot of Fox News? Interesting…

      • MacFly1

        Fuax = MSLSD

        Mirror images of disinformation.

    • MacFly1

      pull your ‘ead outta your arse.

  • joev

    What did he read?

  • Guy Fleegman1

    Obama was much more involved in 9/11 than G Bush was….

    • Ansky

      Are you saying that obama and osama could be the same person? Interesting

      • Guy Fleegman1

        Jeezus you are retarded fella

        • MacFly1

          so you’re saying Obomber’s retarded for bombing Libya?

    • Undecider

      How so?

      • Guy Fleegman1

        Because what I say matters about as much as what you say…that’s how..thx

        • MacFly1

          facts matter, little Guy.

    • MacFly1

      The Obomber was only involved in doing the same things as Bush like bombing Libya, killing more people (5 to 1) with drones than even Bush, etc.

  • Mike TheVet

    Please stay away from flying, Thomas. When serious people like yourself start talking about these things, strange and peculiar things happen and enough people have “gone through trouble.”

    Please get some security detail, if you don’t have some already, Sir.

    • MacFly1

      Yep. Shotgun and pistol for inside the house, rifle for outside.

  • Shari Peterson

    Will they expose the goons behind the set up? Or just the set up (i.e. Saudi Arabia)?

    • MacFly1

      the documents expose the Saudi’s but then you can expect the Saudi’s to react with documents of their own. THAT’s when the real fur will fly.

  • Trader Gang

    Just shorted the market today. Get ready for the next one!

  • http://www.joshuascottmccullough.com/ Josh McCullough

    One of our representatives has got to have the balls to get this document out in the open. Anyone?

    • MacFly1

      Well, one from Kentucky did. Write your congress critter.

  • Noah Figg

    A bit of context for the report of which some classified pages may be released. Phillip Zelikow was the executive director of the 9/11 Investigation. He is close to Condoleeza Rice (co-authors of a book) and has written about creating public myths to influence perceptions of the immediate past. He is the actual author behind the 9/11 Investigation report, having had an outline of the final report, down the sub-heading, ready before the investigation of the staff had even begun. In the same pre-9/11 time period that the Project for a New American Century was writing about maintaining military dominance through a transformation and expansion and the impetus that a “Pearl Harbor” event would bring to that process, Zelikow was writing this on Catastrophic Terrorism in 1998:
    ‘Readers should imagine the possibilities for themselves, because the most serious constraint on current policy [nonaggression] is lack of imagination. An act of catastrophic terrorism that killed thousands or tens of thousands of people and/or disrupted the necessities of life for hundreds of thousands, or even millions, would be a watershed event in America’s history. It could involve loss of life and property unprecedented for peacetime and undermine Americans’ fundamental sense of security within their own borders in a manner akin to the 1949 Soviet atomic bomb test, or perhaps even worse. Constitutional liberties would be challenged as the United States sought to protect itself from further attacks by pressing against allowable limits in surveillance of citizens, detention of suspects, and the use of deadly force. More violence would follow, either as other terrorists seek to imitate this great “success” or as the United States strikes out at those considered responsible. Like Pearl Harbor, such an event would divide our past and future into a “before” and “after.” The effort and resources we devote to averting or containing this threat now, in the “before” period, will seem woeful, even pathetic, when compared to what will happen “after.” Our leaders will be judged negligent for not addressing catastrophic terrorism more urgently.’
    Someone versed in the creating of public myths, someone doing the pre-work on the myths needed for the desired transformative event (it is seen as desired due to the work of others in the same clique describing this goal, and the common usage of language and reference to a Pearl Harbor-like attack), as well as someone close to the people who need the most scrutiny in an investigation, is not a sort of person expected to produce a valid investigation, as is pretty clear from the content of the report known so far. I believe the classified portions are probably aimed at influencing the politicians privileged to see them, creating an “inner myth” and an “outer myth.”
    The outer myth, Afghanistan and Iraq helped the attacks through supporting al-Qaeda. The inner myth, is perhaps the Saudis actually funded the attacks (notice it inches closer to the truth, but is a red herring meant to prevent it going further; it’s still safely a foreign “them”). They don’t want to discuss US corporations and intelligence groups funding terrorists, as the history shows before in Afghanistan, before that with Gladio in Europe (generally). There’s an unbroken chain of rebel and terrorists groups being fostered by western powers as proxy armies. But this history is unpopular to experts and officials so it is widely unknown.

  • Sunlove

    Are these the papers that implicate Saudi Arabia as having something to do with 9/11? Exactly what should I ask my Congressman? What are these papers referred to as?

    • MacFly1

      Its a document presently being declassified (or not) at the National Archives if it isn’t still in the control of the Congress.

      • sunlove

        Would you know the name of the document?

  • MacFly1

    It doesn’t challenge me to re-think anything because as soon as Building 7 came down I knew something was rotten in the state and city of New York, New York. Also, I lived right by the Pentagon and I heard a missile hit it. I saw NO airplane.

    One note of caution to those of you who might expect the skull-duggery to be “over,” when this stuff comes out. More than likely, it will contain some truth but more lies. For example, I think this document basically shows the complicity of the Saudi government in the terror acts. But you can rest assured, if this comes out and it points the finger of blame on the Saudi’s, the Saudi’s will then provide evidence that SHOWS CLEARLY this was a CIA operation all the way. Even if they did use Mossad to execute it.

    Once it comes out its up to us to hang every one of these people. Don’t expect justice from the courts. Its up to the people to take it.

  • DameEdnasPossum

    He read what anybody with a brain already knows…9/11 was an inside job.

    The official story is less believable that the tooth fairy.

  • NJ voter

    I wish I had a Congressman to read those pages . My Congressman left office earlier this year. Just when you need them I guess.

  • sunlove

    HR 428. “Urging the president to release information regarding the September 11,

    2001, terrorist attacks upon the United States.” Can you add this to the article?

  • Steel Jnr McMillan

    Can I nominate a senator from Australia to read the 28 page classified document lol.