Jesse Ventura Awarded $1.8 Million Dollars in Defamation Case

By: Ben Swann
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St. Paul, MN- After a two year fight, former Minnesota Governor and television host Jesse Ventura has been awarded $1.8 million dollars in his defamation case against the estate of sniper and best selling author Chris Kyle. Kyle, who was regarded as the deadliest sniper in U.S. military history had claimed in his book, “American Sniper” that he had punched out Ventura in a Los Angeles bar for bad-mouthing Navy SEALs.

The story, which was published in Kyle’s memoir, claimed that he punched Ventura in California in 2006 after Ventura said the SEALs “deserved to lose a few” in Iraq. Ventura disputed that the confrontation, including the punch, ever happened.

In “American Sniper” Kyle does not recount the incident by naming Ventura. The section recounts an October 2006 confrontation that Chris Kyle said he had at a bar in Coronado, California, with a man called “Scruff Face.” It was in promotional interviews where Kyle identified the man as Ventura, who was in Coronado for a SEAL reunion and graduation ceremony. Kyle was at the bar for a wake for a fallen SEAL.

Monday, the jury believed a verdict could not be reached. The judge encouraged them to go back and continue to deliberate. Tuesday’s resolution came only after attorneys for both sides agreed to allow a verdict if eight of 10 jurors agreed. The jury awarded Ventura $500,000 for defamation and $1.3 million for unjust enrichment.

At least some of that money will be covered by “American Sniper” publisher HarperCollins’ insurance policy. John Borger, an attorney for Kyle’s estate, said the family would consider an appeal. He also told the Associated Press said the $1.3 million for unjust enrichment will have to come from the book profits.

Chris Kyle was killed last year at a Texas gun range, when another service member suffering from PTSD turned his weapon on Kyle. After the death, Ventura moved forward with the defamation suit against Kyle’s widow, Taya Kyle, as the defendant. She wasn’t in court to hear the verdict.


Ventura was also not present but his attorney, David Bradley Olson, said Ventura felt there were “no real winners in this trial.”

Olsen told the AP, “He’s certainly grateful for the verdict, but his reputation with an entire generation of young SEALs may never be repaired,” Olsen said, adding, “It is a victory in the sense that the jury did tell the world that Chris Kyle’s story is a lie and was a fabrication.”

Ventura’s attorney made the case to jurors that the claims that Ventura believed the SEALS deserved to “lost a few” in Iraq had made him a pariah in the community that mattered most to him — the brotherhood of current and former SEALs.

Borger argued that 11 witnesses presented by the defense told a “compelling and consistent story” that backed Kyle’s account.

Ventura testified that his income as a television personality fell sharply as job offers dried up in the wake of “American Sniper.” Borger said Ventura’s career as an entertainer was in decline well before that.


  • James

    Chris Kyle family wont win in the appeal. They might as well give it up. If Chris would kept his mouth shut and not started the crap. None of this would be happening right now.

  • Yanksta

    What? If there are no real winners, why go through with it? If your worried that the story was bad for your rep within the fraternity that matters most to you, then what the hell did you think taking money from a widow of that fraternity would do? These actions reek of a money grubbing has been who thinks he still might wanna be.

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    • Joe

      Why do morons always say he’s stealing from the widow? He sued the book publisher and their insurance company. Pretty sure his wife won’t be effected by this.

      • Firelight

        The profits from the book would go to Kyle’s estate which goes to his wife and kids. So yes, taking money from the estate is the same as taking money from a widow and children.

        • Joe

          The issue is if Jesse just dropped the lawsuit it’s almost admitting he said it. Unfortunately this is a lose, lose situation for him.

          • Firelight

            The issue was Jesse’s ego.

            Any DECENT person would see that their reputation would increase if they had dropped it. All he had to do was issue a press statement reaffirming his position that this event did not occur but that out of respect for the widow he was not going to pursue it.

            Of course, there is no decency in Jesse.

          • BoDogit3

            the issue is 80% of a jury that heard the evidence agreed Kyle defamed Ventura.

          • Firelight

            and Kyle wasn’t there to defend himself.

          • BoDogit3

            he didn’t need to be they had it all on tape

          • Firelight

            They had it on tape that he said it happened. 11 people also testified that Kyle was telling the truth.

            Had kyle been alive to defend himself he may have added more information.

            Suing a dead man is cowardly.

          • BoDogit3

            watch Opie and Anthony when Kyle confronts AJ and he is back peddling the estate and or book publisher could have ended this all by retracting but the money from the increased profits was too much to do the right thing. So good for Mr. Ventura. I’m glad he stuck up for himself against the lying press. You just have sour grapes. Probably an insurance shill.

          • Firelight

            I’m not an insurance shill. I’m someone who doesn’t like bullies and Ventura is a bully picking on a dead man’s family.

          • BoDogit3

            sounds like the jury thought the “dead man’s” family was picking on a old man, just like Kyle claimed to do.

          • Firelight

            that’s just sick.

          • BoDogit3

            watch the video he claimed he was picking on a geriatric patient and laughed about it.

          • Firelight

            You are claiming the wife and children (dead man’s family) was picking on an old man.

            That is just sick and twisted.

          • BoDogit3

            picking on old people for profit is more sick and twisted

          • Bill Bradsky

            Somebody’s twisted, but it ain’t BoDogit3.

          • AdviceKrugman

            Your statement assumes the money gained from the book sales was Kyle’s to begin with. The verdict today shows it isn’t, and never was, because he gained that money unjustly. If the money was never Kyle’s, then his heirs have no claim to it.

          • signalfire1

            How do you feel about all the people who bought a book that contains lies? And who were so naive they believed that their ‘hero’ did everything he said he did? Maybe you’re just still mad because you just found out Santa Claus isn’t real.

          • AdviceKrugman

            Numbers mean nothing if the 11 people so testifying lack credibility to the jury.

          • signalfire1

            While he was ALIVE he couldn’t keep the facts straight. Liars need good memories, and his were a bit… unclear. (While you’re doing more research, find out about those 2 carjackers he was supposed to have killed, or the 30 nonexistent bodies down in New Orleans that the authorities said never happened.

          • BoDogit3

            I respect Ventura more for sticking up for himself against the lying press.

          • Bill Bradsky

            Any DECENT person would see that right is right. Just because tragic circumstances have befallen a person doesn’t mean that person is entitled to fraudulently obtained money. The only decency you know is that of mob rule.

        • AdviceKrugman

          Just because Kyle was murdered doesn’t entitle his wife and children to money he wouldn’t have had if he was still alive, given the verdict.

          • Firelight

            You don’t know that Kyle would not have presented convincing testimony. You have no idea so the assumption that Ventura would have won if Kyle was alive and could have testified is simply false. No one knows.

            What I do know is suing a dead man is cowardly.

          • PL

            Lying even more so – the lawsuit started while he was still alive dumbass.

          • AdviceKrugman

            Are you kidding me? Kyle’s side had one of the best exceptions in the Rules of Evidence available to them: they could get hearsay admitted. And even with that advantage, they still weren’t able to convince the jury.

        • BWaterFlo

          By your logic I could steal your car, give it to my wife, die, and then you should just give up trying to get it back?

          Your lack of knowledge on everything this case involves is apparent from reading your comments in this thread.

          For the betterment of the world as well as your own well being, please stop blindly believing the most popular or socially acceptable story. Ask your own questions and find your own answers. If that is too much effort, please don’t act like your opinion matters.

        • Bill Bradsky

          Oh that poor woman! How will she ever pay for her Ferrari and Bentley now that she bought that huge mansion and she’s out this $1.8 million?! That coward Ventura! A dirty rotten scoundrel of the highest degree!
          Seriously though, nobody sued Kyle’s widow. Kyle had already retracted his false statement publicly before he was murdered. Ventura was just clearing his name.

      • Yanksta

        Well Joe, I guess you should be writing to the AP – not me. What I READ in the report:

        “At least some of that money will be covered by “American Sniper” publisher HarperCollins’ insurance policy. John Borger, an attorney for Kyle’s estate, said the family would consider an appeal. He also told the Associated Press said the $1.3 million for unjust enrichment will have to come from the book profits.”

        Sounds to me like the family may be on the hook. Why else would the suit be against his estate?

        “Ventura has been awarded $1.8 million dollars in his defamation case against the estate of sniper and best selling author Chris Kyle”

  • limanina

    awsome

    • Brian Bradford

      If by awesome you mean the fact that Kyles widowed wife had to go through this bullshit over something stupid that Jesse should have let go then yea awesome. “o0o0 he said something bad about me my feelings are hurt, I don’t care if your husband was murdered I still wan’t my 1.8 million for having my feelings hurt”

      • LibertyMonger

        Why
        do you all believe everything the media tells you? Jessie speaks truth
        to power, and truth is treason in an empire of lies. this is why they
        are defaming Jessie. To get all of your reactions as displayed here, a
        witch hunt to make you hate him! See how stupid you all look? Jessie
        speaks out against CORRUPT GOVERNMENT NOT VETS. This is why you were
        taught to hate him.

        • Obsidiandog

          Jesse made his living off professional wrestling. That’s about as truthy as it gets. Quit sniffing his jock.

          • signalfire1

            You obviously missed the part where he also made a living from being governor, writing numerous books and producing tv shows. Whether you agree with the content or not, at least he didn’t slander anyone in them.

      • AdviceKrugman

        By “awsome”, he meant he’s a robo-spammer. See his post below.

      • BoDogit3

        if she had to go through anything it was because of a greedy insurance company for the publisher that made profits off the lies

      • signalfire1

        She’s a widow because her husband was an idiot. His lies just compounded his obvious lack of a conscience. She’ll still come out of this a millionaire but at least now she’s not sleeping with a killer.

        • Brian Bradford

          She is a window because he was murdered. Way to be tacky and uninformed there.

          • darkness

            He was an idiot. He took a PTSD patient to a shooting range, the patient snapped, and shot Kyle.

            Only an idiot would do that.

      • darkness

        Being accused of treason is not “stupid”.

        He was accused of saying he was happy seals are dying and that more should die. This isnt a silly little phrase to let go.

        How would you like it if everyone believed you wanted veterans to die? How would you like it if this lie cost you your job, prevented you from getting another, and destroyed your reputation?
        Yeah, its not some silly little thing to let go.

  • Matthew Iglehart

    Those that live by the sword die by the sword

  • winsomebulldog

    Ventura is scum. He’s also insane, but I despise him for being such a douche that he would not drop the lawsuit once Chris Kyle died. Dirtbag.

    • BoDogit3

      all they had to do was take the lie back …

      • Firelight

        Yes, it is so easy for a dead man to come back to life so he can take a lie back.

        Pretty sure the publisher had no idea what was true or not. They just assume that Kyle was telling the truth. How convenient for Ventura that Kyle was dead.

        • AdviceKrugman

          If the publisher had no idea whether it was true or not, that shows a reckless disregard for the truth at the time of publication. The best thing they could have done then is issue a retraction regarding those passages.

          • Firelight

            I would imagine that the publisher believed it to be true. The OP’s statement was that they just had to take the lie back. The publisher didn’t see it as a lie and only Kyle would know for sure. He is conveniently dead.

          • AdviceKrugman

            The publisher believing it was true does not absolve it from the duty of care it must exercise to properly vett the story in order that publication does not defame a third party.

          • BoDogit3

            you just can’t go slinging that garbage, he should have been awarded more.

          • Firelight

            Yes, because every book ever written is absolute verified truth. Publishers are all knowing… (eyeroll)

          • AdviceKrugman

            It doesn’t have to be “absolute verified truth.” All the publisher had to show was that it made all reasonable efforts to make sure the story wasn’t false. The jury found that Ventura showed the publisher failed to do even that, by “clear and convincing evidence” no less.

          • Firelight

            By winning, Ventura loses more than he ever thought he did in the first place. The public will hate him for this. Heck, they already do.

          • BoDogit3

            The whole book is a disinfo campaign designed to oppose independents. Ventura should collect from all the fake media. imho

          • Firelight

            How’s your tinfoil hat?

          • BoDogit3

            you creased it

          • PL

            True – The lying sack of scum went on air one day after TMZ retracted a story that Ventura was pulled over for drunk driving in CA (he was in MN), which was one day after he publicly announced he was considering a presidential run.

          • darkness

            Just government trolls and sheep hate him. Real Americans that realize Kyle was just a serial liar that loved to make up stories of hitting and killing people and dont support him one bit.

          • Bill Bradsky

            Your understanding of legal matters is stunning (I don’t mean that sarcastically). Do you happen to be a lawyer or have formal legal training? Your arguments are better than I’ve witnessed most lawyers argue real cases.

          • AdviceKrugman

            Alas, I am not. I have interned with a judge though, and have a minor in Legal Studies. But most importantly, the one year of Mock Trial I did in undergrad was a defamation case, so our attorney coach gave us in depth lessons on defamation law.

          • Bill Bradsky

            Well, thank you for injecting some reason into an otherwise BS-filled smack talk session. If it were legal for you to represent me in a defamation case, I’d be confident to have you to do so given your display of expertise on the subject. Your attorney coach must know his stuff as well.

          • darkness

            And it would be quite easy to verify if Kyle lied.

            Kyle’s original story stated he ran from the scene of the crime because police were at the scene. This would mean there had to be a police report of the incident. This would also mean you just need to ask the police for a copy of the report to verify that it happened.

            This one simple step, the publisher never did.

          • PL

            ” Emails from publicists noted how book sales skyrocketed right after the
            shows, and they encouraged him to keep talking about Ventura. But
            considering it’s such a tiny portion of the book, not the subject, he
            grew uncomfortable.”

          • signalfire1

            He gave a deposition as to what had happened. So did 11 of his drunk buddies, who never did get their facts straight.

        • mshmsucks

          According to the article, Kyle died “last year” and the case has been “a two year fight”, so Kyle had a year before he died to recant/defend his story and a year to tell the publisher whether or not it was a lie.

        • signalfire1

          It’s up to the publisher to verify anything that inflammatory in a nonfiction book. A simple call to the local San Diego police department would have shown that Kyle’s version of that evening was a lie and that no police report was ever filed. Since Kyle said the police were ‘coming’ or ‘had arrived’ or ‘where there’ before he ran like a coward, his version was obviously a lie, like all the other lies Kyle liked to tell for his own aggrandisement.

      • winsomebulldog

        All he had to do was not be a giant douche.

  • Firelight

    Wait, how can he claim that the jury is verifying that Kyle lied? He’s dead and can’t really defend himself and 11 witnesses backed up Kyle’s story.

    That isn’t a solid judgement. That is taking advantage of the fact that a man is dead and can’t defend himself and then taking money from the widow and kids.

    If Ventura was worried about his reputation, he would have been smart enough not to sue a widow. This was about his ego…

    • AdviceKrugman

      Because there’s an exception to the hearsay rule that allows a testifying claimant to repeat any relevant statements they heard which were made by a deceased person.

      • Firelight

        I get that statements from a deceased can used in court.

        My point is Ventura’s attorney statement: “It is a victory in the sense that the jury did tell the world that Chris Kyle’s story is a lie and was a fabrication.”

        That isn’t what the jury “told the world” with their verdict.

        • Joe

          Speak for yourself.. Maybe it not tell you that but don’t be a mouth piece for the world.

          • Firelight

            Don’t be a mouthpiece for the jury. They made no such statement.

        • AdviceKrugman

          Actually, it is (sort of) what the jury said. Elements in a defamation case involving a public figure include (i) the claim by the defendant was false, and (ii) it was made with actual malice (i.e., the defendant knew the statement was false, or recklessly disregarded the possibility that the statement was false).

          To win, Ventura had to prove both of those elements, along with several others. The jury, as trier of fact, by siding with Ventura, says that Kyle’s story as published was false, and that Kyle’s publisher either knew it was false when Kyle handed it over or that the publisher did not properly vett the story.

          • Firelight

            No, it was a technicality and exploitation of the rules. The “jury” could not come to a proper decision. It was only by resolution to accept less jurors did an agreement arise.

          • Joe

            You did read where BOTH lawyers agreed that would be ok..

          • AdviceKrugman

            Your assumption about juries is misinformed. Juries don’t always need to be unanimous. Not even in criminal cases. In Louisiana, juries can convict on criminal charges with only 9 of 12 juror; in Oregon, with 10 of 12. These non-unanimous verdicts have been upheld by SCOTUS.

            Even if the jurisdiction where the case was tried required unanimity, parties can agree to relax that requirement, as the parties did in this case. The fact that they agreed to relax the unanimity requirement does not make the verdict less legitimate.

          • Firelight

            You aren’t reading what I am saying. I get that the jury made a decision. I get that the attorney’s agreed to a resolution but to claim that the jury “told the world” is simply false. They couldn’t even come to a proper agreement and a resolution had to be agreed upon to get a verdict. That doesn’t scream a solid verdict. That says the jury was tired and wanted to go home. It happens all the time. Yay for Ventura… /s

          • AdviceKrugman

            So, does Congress not pass laws when its votes in either house are not unanimous? Does the Supreme Court not speak even when a rulign is only 5-4? I think you have some confusion over what constitutes the agency of a body of people.

          • Firelight

            I’m not saying it had to be unanimous. I am saying that there was dissent so claiming that the “jury wanted to tell the world” is a flat out lie. Some on the jury dissented and some probably just wanted to go home.

          • AdviceKrugman

            “The Jury” is the supermajority of the jurors to which both parties agreed. Stop equivocating already. Nobody likes a pedant–especially when he’s wrong.

          • Firelight

            I’ll leave you to play semantics by yourself. Clearly, there is a lack of decency around here. God help you if you die and someone sues your estate taking money from your wife and kid over something so trivial. I would find it appalling then too but you apparently won’t.

          • BoDogit3

            she is still a millionaire and you are throwing a tantrum lmao

          • Firelight

            Oh, so you are one of “those” people. I get it now.

          • Bill Bradsky

            What kind of people would that be? What are you racist now? ;)

          • AdviceKrugman

            You can’t “take” anything from someone’s heirs when whatever you “take” was never the decedent’s to begin with.

          • Firelight

            Interesting, then why was Jesse suing in the first place? A good reputation was never his to begin with…

          • AdviceKrugman

            He proved it was. Remember when I mentioned the elements Ventura had to prove? Damages is one of those elements. He had to convince the jury that he had a reputation and that the publication of Kyle’s false story caused those damages.

          • Firelight

            What a sheltered jury, Ventura is a joke and other than the tin foil hat club, he is not respected in this country. Just watch, he won’t be any popular now than before. In fact, this will just hurt him more.

          • BoDogit3

            the book would have probably lost money if not for the disinfo put out by Kyle

          • AdviceKrugman

            I agree with you that Ventura’s a joke, but that doesn’t entitle people to make false statements about him that cause him any sort of harm.

          • Joe

            Sounds like someone (Firelight) is still mad they can’t get $15/hr working at McDonalds & has sour grapes Jesse Ventura has done something with his life!

          • Bill Bradsky

            Ventura is a household name. The guy has been successful as a military man, a motorcycle gangster, a politician, an actor and a “reality” show host. I never cared for most of Ventura’s work (except for his role in Predator of course :P), but it’s clear that the “tin foil hat club” as you call them put a lot of stock in what Kyle had to say about Ventura. That constitutes defamation, plain as day. The man made up a tall tale which caused monetary damage to another man, while profiting from the lie himself.

          • signalfire1

            The ‘tin foil hat crowd’ knows Jesse is telling the truth about the conspiracies (like the Gulf of Tonkin incident, but all the others also); it’s the military killer wannabes that believed Kyle that continue to hate on Ventura.

          • signalfire1

            Kyle should have considered that when he started lying in order to ramp up book sales. And he should have considered that also when he took a psychotic out to a gun range. Why is no one talking about the hapless friend Littlefield who was also murdered due to Chris Kyle’s incredibly poor judgement?

          • signalfire1

            So your Ventura haters didn’t take their jury duty seriously? Is that what you’re saying?

          • BoDogit3

            8-2 is very solid verdict considering the hurdles of finding liability in this case. Clearly the jury didn’t believe the defense.

          • Firelight

            Clearly, they did not and clearly the public still hates Ventura. Who is he going to sue now?

          • BoDogit3

            Ventura won because he was right and the truth was he was defamed. Cry harder.

          • Firelight

            and he is still hated and won’t get a job because the public still thinks he is a douche but hey, he now has $1.8 million dollars from a widow!!

          • BoDogit3

            you are only here because you are afraid he will get elected lol

          • Firelight

            OMG, now THAT is funny. Get out of Minnesota much? No, that is the least of my fears.

          • PL

            The widow is sitting on $15 million mostly made from a book that became a best seller when he lied about Ventura. Who’s the douche?

          • Brian Bradford

            You really think everybody bought his book to read a very short part about Kyle knocking some unnamed dude on his ass at a bar? Cmon now,…

          • darkness

            No. He got $1.8 million from an insurance company.

            Lying scum like Kyle need insurance in case he is called out on his lies.

          • Harry Wookiee

            Since when does a moron-level jury do anything based on facts? They just liked Ventura more than they did Kyle.

          • signalfire1

            Liked an ex-governor more than a mass murderer? Whoda thunk it?

          • Joe

            By public hates Ventura you mean YOU and YOU only! Stop speaking for everyone else.

          • Harry Wookiee

            no, me too.

          • signalfire1

            As someone who has been on two (conviction) juries, that’s unfair. People don’t just decide they’re tired and want to go home. The court doesn’t want hung juries and retrials and both sides agreed to accept a non-unanimous decision. Apparently Kyle’s side thought the jury was leaning towards them and took a chance. They can always appeal but if you followed the day by day of the trial, it was obvious the only think the Kyle side had going for it was the ‘poor widow’ routine and a bunch of drunk ‘witnesses’.

          • PL

            And if they had ruled the opposite way you’d be fine with it. Chris Kyle was a pathological liar – this wasn’t the first time he was outed with lying on a grand scale. His estate’s lawyer obviously thought they had it in the bag or he wouldn’t have agreed to it as the burden of proof was on Ventura.

          • baldy522

            Or, the publisher and Kyle were told to have that story in the book and then to “leak” at some future time that it was Ventura. The Elite criminals did not like someone like Ventura having any clout with young Navy SEAL’s.

        • signalfire1

          The standard of finding a celebrity has been defamed is much higher than for a ‘regular’ individual. The standard was reached according to the jury, and Kyle’s estate (and the book publisher) made money from that defamation. I would have awarded ALL the proceeds. Watch the Kyle interview with Opie and Anthony and Bill O’Reilly and see a sociopath at work. Gee, he even managed to look humble… I will never understand why so many young men are advocating for a mass murderer in this case.

    • Joe

      Did you even read the article? Kyle claimed in “Promotional interviews” that it was Jesse. And again Jesse is suing the book publisher not his wife!

      • Firelight

        Did you read the article that stated that it is Kyle’s estate that will be paying Ventura. The book profits will cover some of the judgement and hopefully future sales but had Ventura not been so greedy, the book profits would have been paid into Kye’s estate and therefore gone to his widow.

        Duh…

        • darkness

          Did you read the part were the magical thing called insurance was mentioned?

          And cover some? Kyle earned over $6 million in illicit funds. Even if insurance covered nothing, they still have over $4 million left.

          And had to be greedy? He had no say in how much he got. The jury and court decided.

          And that money was never his family’s to begin with. You’re acting like Ventura stole it from a widow. The real one you shuld blame is Kyle, for lying and initiating this whole mess. If he told the truth or at least admitted to lying, then his family never would have to deal with this mess.

    • Liberty Click

      No the article says the lawyer argued that 11 witnesses backed up Kyle’s story. Evidently the jury did not believe that lawyer’s claim.

      • signalfire1

        Again, that was in the summation where the truth was stretched, yet again. The witnesses were all drunk as skunks, and nobody put the alleged altercation in the same place in the bar, the patio and/or the sidewalk outside. Funny, that. Hardly consistent testimony.

    • ghost

      They had a court case, presented evidence, and a jury decided. People lie and fabricate stories in books all the time, it’s nothing new.

    • signalfire1

      Kyle gave a deposition (under oath) before he died. In it, he states that many of the things he said during interviews and in the book ‘never happened’ like ‘chairs flying’, seeing JV lying on the ground and, I believe, the police showing up. The only thing he didn’t retract was that JV said what he claimed, and that he hit him (a felony assault). A real man would have admitted he made the whole thing up, but snipers who brag about their ‘animal’ kills aren’t men. And this wasn’t about JV’s ego, it was about his reputation. Those are entirely two different things.

  • Clarke

    Ventura was wrong for pursuing this case against Kyle’s estate. I also doubt he said what was accused, but to take from a widow is wrong in my book.

    • AdviceKrugman

      The money was never the widow’s to have. You can’t take from someone what isn’t theirs.

      • Clarke

        It is called being the bigger man. Or in my opinion a man period. Did the money come from proceeds generated from a book that in part contained defamation? Yes. Would the widow have received this money had Jesse Ventura not sued? Yes, or at least a portion of it.
        So lets say you make a mistake. You made money from this mistake. I sue you, but during the course of the lawsuit you die leaving your wife without a husband. I now have a choice be a man and allow your wife to keep the money, or continue the suit against your “estate” bankrupting your wife. What would you like me to do?
        I like Ventura, and I very much doubt he said he is glad SEALS died, but he was wrong to pursue the suit against Kyle’s “estate” aka Kyle’s widow.

        • AdviceKrugman

          Bankrupt? Ha! The widow still has over $4M left after the verdict.

          • Clarke

            Well that makes things slightly different. Do you have anything to substantiate that claim. My reading of the article made it sound like she did not have the funds to pay even the 500k.

            “the $1.3 million for unjust enrichment will have to come from the book profits.”

          • AdviceKrugman

            “In his closing argument, Ventura attorney David Bradley Olsen said he believes Kyle’s estate has earned more than $6 million from the book…”

            http://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2014/07/29/ventura_wins_american_sniper_defamation_case/

            Likely Ventura’s lawyer knows this from the discovery stage of the trial, when the publisher had to tell him how much they had paid to Kyle and his estate.

          • signalfire1

            The movie deal alone was worth 8 million.

          • darkness

            More actually. Assholes like Kyle and the publisher stupid enough to not fact check lies of a serial liar have insurance. She isnt out of much at all.

      • Obsidiandog

        Movie < Real life.

        • AdviceKrugman

          It was simply to illustrate my point.

    • Chris

      He was hired by the CIA, his wife will be just fine. Government will just print her some more money.

  • Axiom

    Why are people complaining saying he sued a widow? This was a 2 year case which started with Kyle. Then Kyle died so naturally his wife takes over all things he was involved in.

    Is this not the only reason a widow would be involved?

    • Clarke

      To me it is simple, he should have dropped the case. I am familiar with all the back story involved. I have heard Ventura speak on the matter several times. Did he not continue a lawsuit against a widow?

      • AdviceKrugman

        Really?! That’s like saying a millionaire Wall St. bankster’s widow should be able to keep the proceeds from his embezzlement of his clients’ funds because he happened to die while those clients were suing to get their money back.

        What kind of shartty ex ante rule says that you get to keep ill-gotten gains and pass them on to your heirs so long as you still posses those ill-gotten gains when you die?

        • Jay

          Hmm. Didn’t Ventura have a TV show where he supported 911 conspiracy clams that the attacks were an “inside job” by the government? And that the passengers killed on flight 93 and on the plane that hit the pentagon were actors or didn’t actually exist. I wonder how much money Ventura made from those ridiculous shows he made? I hope every single one of those 911 families sues Ventura for everything he has.

          • Tex

            That would be nice except a lot of the families are with him on it..

          • Jay

            Really? Never heard of any families of the victims supporting conspiracy groups. There are thousands of family members, and i guess i wouldn’t be surprised if their were a few nut jobs. I’d really like to see a link for any family member of flight 93 or the plane that hit the pentagon that thinks their loved one was part of some conspiracy or weren’t on those planes.

          • Lou

            Jay, you’re confused about the word ‘conspiracy’. The plot of the hijackers would also be a conspiracy.

          • Jay

            Not confused. I know the plot in of it self was a type of conspiracy, but i was speaking about the many different conspiracies that is targeted at the official account of what happened.

          • baldy522

            How is anyone ignorant enough in this day and age to actually believe the official account of 9/11 from the Government? Yes, of course it was an inside job. We have had a Cabal of Elite criminals running our Government for years.

            Kyle was a sheep dipped Special Forces. He did what he was told and they told him to lie about Venture to defame him among other brainwashed SEAL’s. Do you actually believe that some PTSD vet was able to suddenly get the best of Kyle? Really? Kyle had awakened to what was going on. He was talking to some of those in the Liberty movement that people like you call crazy. The Elites didn’t like that. Kyle ends up getting shot, then his former company is seen doing security at the Boston Bombing? A Black Ops security firm doing security at an obvious False Flag by a criminal Cabal.

            I am former Military. My family is a Military family. I had and still have family in the alphabet agencies. I am not anti-Military. I also do not like Ventura all that much. He is a left leaning Libertarian. As much as I like the Libertarian ideas, he doesn’t believe there should be borders and was part of the bitch fest about the Redskins name change and thinks they should change it. But as for this, I think Advise Krugman is correct. Kyle defamed Ventura. He needed to clear his name. The widow is making plenty off that book deal and if you think that it is ok for her to keep money from even part of a purposeful lie, then that explains why you believe the Government on 9/11.

          • Jay

            Yeah, but you left out the part where bigfoot, space aliens, the NWO, illuminate, free masons, reptilian people and Alex Jones all went shopping for brand new tin foil hats as they plotted the demise of the world.

            Oh, man. Thanks for the good laugh. I needed that. You better go hide in your bunker before “they” get you too. BLHAHAHAHA!

          • baldy522

            Thanks for proving your ignorance and inability to think critically. Just go vote for Hillary and keep sticking up for Obama you little sheeple.

          • Jay

            Yes, that’s right, everyone that doesn’t fall in line with your political philosophy or don’t see things your way are sheeple. LOL! That reasoning is a great way for those insecure about their intelligence to convince themselves of their superiority over others. Basic psychology. Really, though, it just speaks to your own ignorance, and the fact you don’t know how to deal with people that has a different opinion than you do.

            Now i have to go invest in Alcoa……..tin foil is going through the roof.

          • baldy522

            Riiiight. and those that don’t fall in line with your thinking are called tin foil hat wearers, crazy or Conspiracy Theorists in an attempt to marginalize and defame them and the truth they are speaking against the system you worship. Admin trolls such as yourself really just don’t seem to get it. I personally don’t have a problem with sheep like you. I do not try and wake people like you up. Once the Civil War starts people like you are not going to last very long and that means more stuff for me and my family. So, please keep worshiping your Government Gods and stay asleep.

          • Jay

            There is a difference between someone that has reasonable opposition to my political beliefs, and someone that completely goes off the deep end. I disagree with conservative and libertarians, but i don’t think they are “sheep” because they don’t think like me. But when a child says there are monsters under their bed and a boogie man in the closet i don’t take them seriously. And you are no different than a paranoid child screaming about monsters under the bed trying to get them. All your crazy conspiracies. What’s an admin troll, anyway?

            Civil war, huh? Why wait? Pick up a gun or make a bomb and march on Washington. See what happens. Maybe you should ask Timothy Mcveigh what happens. You seem to have similar beliefs. At least he had the guts to practice what he preaches unlike you and your other “patriot” friends that do nothing but sit behind their computers playing revolution. Encouraging a violent revolution but not lifting a finger themselves. What a bunch of cowards. Believe me, it will be you that won’t last long if it ever went down.

          • RabbleRabbleRabble

            There is no way to get through to people like that. There always has to be some kind of cover up for everything that happens because, well, I guess just because. But I applaud your effort.

          • Jay

            Yeah, i know there is no reaching them, but it’s still kind of fun messing with them. LOL!

          • RabbleRabbleRabble

            Oh yeah! That’s half the reason I have a disqus account =P

          • Bill Bradsky

            Hmm, another glimpse of your sadistic tendency.

          • baldy522

            Admin troll= Someone that trolls threads for the current Administration to do what you are doing now. Defame and ridicule those that do not adhere to your ideologies. I am not paranoid. I am awake. You are an asleep little sheep being lead to the slaughter by those that you worship. You are the type that still believes that the Gulf of Tonkin actually happened and was what started the Vietnam War, even though it has been admitted that it never happen. You are the type that calls anything that goes against your God the Government as a Conspiracy Theory, when all of them have plenty of proof to show they are real. People like you just can’t believe it unless “certain” people or news channels tell you to believe it.

            As for starting physical violence, never, that is the job of your Tyrannical Authoritarian leaders that you worship. We will only respond in defense when we are threatened. Up to that point we will fight with our words and votes. That is what the 2nd Amendment is for and that is why they are doing whatever they can to take our Rights to bare Arms and defend ourselves. Timothy McVeigh was just a patsy for the FBI to blame their False Flag on. Watch the documentary “A Noble Lie” and learn something. It is loaded with nothing but facts. But since the Trendy people didn’t tell you, then it is not real. You are the child at the mental age of a teenager that is so dependent on what others think about them that they are incapable of Critical Thinking. I know I will last when the SHTF. I have been through similar situations before and survived.

            The fact that you even suggested it proves that you are an Admin troll, maybe even an FBI Troll trying to get someone to make a threat so that you can bust the owner of this site and the person who made the comment. All because you think it makes an example of those you hate, when all it does is shows 85% of the population that you are Authoritarian Psychopaths that want to rule everyone in a Feudalistic system. The other 15% of the population are the sheep that don’t have the brain power to think for themselves.

          • Bill Bradsky

            “Civil war, huh? Why wait? Pick up a gun or make a bomb and march on Washington. See what happens.” So what you’re saying is that because you have the greater threat of force on your side, your assertion is correct? Hmm, that reminds me of something…
            Oh yeah, that’s a little thing called bullying, or in its official form, tyranny. You wreak of the propagandized child with the blood lust of thousands of hours of captive indoctrination waiting to be unleashed on some unsuspecting victim. Keep drinking the Kool-Aid bro. Marginalize all you want. We see right through you into the depths of your hollow soul.

          • RabbleRabbleRabble

            Lmao

          • Bill Bradsky

            I thought Alcoa was in the Aluminum business.

          • Jayne Cobb

            Combining Alex Jones in with the UFO crowd shows you are completely ignorant. And I’m guessing willfully ignorant, at that.

          • Bill Bradsky

            Wow! That was as good a piece of propaganda as I’ve ever seen. Masterful. The only problem with propaganda is that it’s an even bigger line of BS than the Yettie.

          • darkness

            Nice strawman. Mixing in real conspiracies with fake ones.

            By the way, every president since Bush Sr. has called for a NWO. In fact countless politicians world wide have.

            http://endtimesprophecyreport.wordpress.com/2013/06/05/new-world-order-37-quotes-on-the-new-world-order/

          • AdviceKrugman

            Defamation has to be about a specific individual to be actionable.

          • signalfire1

            Turns out the 9-11 families want to know what happened that day too. The story the govt made up is ludicrous and impossible and anyone doing a modicum of research would know that by now.

          • darkness

            Actually, most 9/11 families are on Ventura’s side. Most question the official story.

            In fact with most conspiracies the families close to the incident question or know the government was complicit. Jackie Kennedy for example knew LBJ was involved in her husband’s murder.

        • Brian Bradford

          You guys act as if the only reason his book sold was because of the part about him knocking Jesse on his ass (who wasn’t even mentioned by name in the book), that was only one very very small part of the book and I’m fairly certain NOT the reason people bought it. To link that with embezzlement is crazy!

          • Jay

            It seems like this is a somewhat anti military website that would have hostile feelings toward Kyle. So i think most people would blindly take Ventura’s side. I don’t even remember how i came across this website, but i noticed Ben Swann on Russia Today basically spewing Russian propaganda. Wow, never coming back to this website again.

          • Randy

            Nice work, Comrade!

          • Jayne Cobb

            So questioning Kyle’s story makes one “anti-military”. Sorry, that’s pure stupidity.

            Most of us patriots support the military personnel that risk their lives for their country. But….we also realize that they’re fighting for the military industrial complex unbeknownst to them. So, most of their motives are pure and they love God and Country, but many are ignorant of the NWO that they’re working for.

            So no, I, for one, am not anti-military. I support and admire the troops, but not their bosses.

          • ghost

            You think soldiers don’t lie? You’re wrong, pal.

          • Bill Bradsky

            Ventura was Navy as well. I’m not sure how supporting his side of the story is more “anti military” than supporting Kyle’s.

          • signalfire1

            Yeah, because all those pro government websites are so truthful.

          • Thorley Winston

            That wasn’t the “only reason” but it was a definite factor. The 1.8 million verdict is made up of two parts. $500,000 of it consists of the estimated damages to Ventura (remember the guy’s identity as a veteran was an important part of what got him elected mayor and then governor and also which made him sought after as a media personality). The $1.3 million was an estimate by the jury (and it’s being reviewed by the courts so it could be adjusted) of how much of proceeds of the sale of the book (which took off after the author publicly claimed Ventura was the guy from the book) came from the defamation of Ventura.

          • Kick

            He told the story during a promotion tour. People bought the book to read about this incident.

          • Brian Bradford

            pretty sure people bought the book to read the book, not one short little part of him punching out somebody who deserves to be punched out.

          • Kick

            Book sales skyrocketed after he made the statement on an interview.

          • Bill Bradsky

            His comparison is accurate. Your straw man is contained in the fact that AdviceKrugman didn’t try to link the act with embezzlement. He used it as an analogy to refute the “poor widow” defense. Ventura wasn’t pursuing this legal action to hold a dead guy’s wife accountable for her husband’s actions. He was pursuing it to clear his name of slanderous and unsubstantiated promotional statements. Kyle’s wife shouldn’t benefit from that any more than Kyle should, regardless of her personal tragedy; that’s the point.
            I never heard of Chris Kyle until this case came up. I’ve known about Jesse Ventura for several decades now. He’s pretty much a household name at this point. I’m pretty sure this controversy benefited Kyle’s book sales immensely. Not only that but the guy changed his story after the public outcry. I’m sorry, but Kyle’s credibility isn’t apparent in this case.

          • AdviceKrugman

            Well, the rate of books sales increased significantly after Kyle uttered his story, so…

          • signalfire1

            You probably missed it, but the Opie and Anthony and O’Reilly interviews caused a minor sensation (which was part of the BOOK SALES TOUR). Turns out decking Jesse Ventura was more fascinating than hearing about over 100 murdered Iraqi freedom fighters.

      • Jayne Cobb

        The MSM is making you believe it’s “against the poor widow” but it appears to have been more about Harper Collins and Newscorp. They put the book out and THEY, folks, are the ones paying Ventura in the suit, NOT the poor, poor widow.

      • ghost

        That makes absolutely no sense. Jesse was right to move forward with the suit to clear his name and bring the shame where it rightfully belongs, on the guy who lied to boost his book sales.

      • Thorley Winston

        IIRC he was suing Kyle’s estate and the widow was only named because she was the executrix of the estate which is not the same thing as suing her personally. Sort of like how if you sue the government, you name the government official in charge of the relevant department.

  • Redheaded Stepchild

    I’m sorry for Mrs. Kyle…she has to deal with the fact that her late husband lied about the incident. That doesn’t change the fact that Kyle defamed Ventura. People just have to deal with that.

    • Obsidiandog

      A court judgement isn’t fact.

      • Redheaded Stepchild

        And? Where are you going with that one, Obsidiandog? The court determined that Kyle had defamed Ventura. It’s a formal decision. That’s a fact. You might not like it, but it is what it is.

        • Obsidiandog

          It’s a decision, but they don’t always represent the facts. Remember, OJ didn’t kill Nicole. That’s a fact, right?

          • signalfire1

            Not according to the civil suit. Ask his now-grown kids what they think.

        • Brian Bradford

          It still doesn’t make it a fact, I guess its a fact that both OJ and Casey Anthony weren’t innocent as well? ;)

          • Bill Bradsky

            It’s a fact that there was not enough evidence generated by the prosecution to convict either person of murder. It’s also a fact that Chris Kyle benefited monetarily from unsubstantiated claims about Jesse Ventura.

          • darkness

            But it is fact that the Jury are far more well versed on the case than the general public.

            More often than not the general public just adapts a herd mentality, following the herders from the mainstream media.

    • signalfire1

      She was married to a mass murderer who called his victims ‘animals’. She also admitted in an interview that he made stuff up all the time and their marriage was on the rocks. Hard to feel sorry for someone who would stay married to a killer, not to mention the price that the sovereign citizens of Iraq put on the head of him and maybe her and her kids… guess he figured he could protect them. Too bad it didn’t work out that way on the gun range.

  • http://www.immigration-weaver.blogspot.com/ weaver

    Ventura would not Dis the Seals like that and swinging on him with two Ventura bodyguards present would not have ended well for Kyle. The majority of the jury agreed it didn’t happen and we are also pretty sure Kyle was not shooting Americans from the top of the Superdome either. http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/did-special-forces-snipers-kill-americans-after-katrina/

    My guess is that this will cause enough publicity that the book will sell another $3million.

  • ded2me

    Ventura has said repeatedly that the money means nothing. Its principal. He had asked Kyle and his estate to just apologize and admit it was a phony story and he would have left them alone. But they refused to. So this is what happens. So ridiculous.

    • Thorley Winston

      Agreed, the fact that Ventura was originally willing to settle for an apology and retraction but the defendant refused supports his claim that it wasn’t about the money. However once he incurred the expense of attorneys and the lawsuit and got the verdict, I don’t think he has any obligation nor does it reflect poorly on him for refusing to give up any the damages that were awarded to him.

    • Vee_Kay

      So, just apologize, even though “11 witnesses presented by the defense told a “compelling and consistent story” that backed Kyle’s account.” I would hope my wife does not retract facts in my life after my demise. How many witnesses backed Ventura’s account?

      • Ned Weatherby

        Um – Kyle’s defense attorney said the statement about the eleven witnesses in closing arguments. Do you understand the difference between a closing argument made by a lawyer, and witness testimony? Further, if the testimony was indeed so compelling, what happened to the jurors? Bad acid laced cookies, or just all idiots?

    • Obsidiandog

      It’s the principal. And the interest.

    • John

      Then he should donate the money to charity. If he won the case then his name should be cleared. If the money means nothing to him, then he should donate it to some organization where it will matter. People making millions on stupid crap like this is ridiculous, I understand him trying to clear his name, but him taking the money from a widow of a servicemen just makes him look like crap in the court of public opinion, which was the opposite of what he was trying to do.

      • ded2me

        HEs not taking money from this widow. The money comes from the publishers insurance company. Also, you do realize it costs a LOT of cash to fight things in court. Lawyers take 33%. Add up all the rest of the litigation costs and more than half the money is gone.

  • NadePaulKuciGravMcKi

    it was a coordinated orchestrated Neocon smear job on 9/11/01
    truth-teller Jesse Ventura by the mass murder VIP war profiteers

    • DoubIenaughtspy

      Yea okay…or perhaps a idle boast that took on a life of it’s own.

      • RabbleRabbleRabble

        Yeahhhh, I’m gonna have to agree with you on this.

    • ChuckNoland

      So the government employees who are 90% Dems got together to help the Neocons? You aren’t very good at this thinking stuff, are you? Of course we know your type…

      War under Bush=Neocon war monger
      War under Obama=Nobel Peace Prize

  • Donald W VanDeusen

    ventura your a piece of crap and I would punch you in your face if in my presence you piece of shit

    • Jayne Cobb

      I doubt it Mr. Internet Tough Guy.

      But if you were dumb enough to do that Ventura would sue your ass, too.

    • darkness

      If you do, I hope you enjoy losing a lawsuit and time in prison for assaulting another human being.

  • scooby35

    Hes not capable of honesty. Remember his “conspiracy” show? Breaking into “secret” meetings but there was a camera on the other sideof the door?…. Hard to believe there’s anyone stupid enough to believe that gatbage. Then again, Obama is POTUS. I gurss nothing is impossible no matter how wrong it is.

    • Jayne Cobb

      Believe what “gatbage”? (sic) Exactly what “gatbage” is the public believing? That conspiracies actually exist? That evil men behind closed doors actually conspire? NO, perish the thought! That’s never happened in government!

      • scooby35

        Excuse me jack#@`, I was typing with a phone. My meaning brilliant one…. They arent entering a “secret” meeting if a camera is already on the inside… I guess now I know who was ignorant enough to believe it….. LOL…. What a loser…..

        • Jayne Cobb

          So you’re blaming typing on a phone for your poor grammar? That’s incredibly lazy.

          Regarding the secret meeting on that episode, I agree with you in that regard. The interviewee knew he was going to interview him. Even though there was information on the show and covered many angles on conspiracy accurately, there was also an entertainment value. Yes, as in most “reality shows”, there is always a goofy angle in some regard. Do you get it now?

          But your prior comment disregarded ALL conspiracies, so you can’t back-track from that angle.

          • scooby35

            Dude… Aside from being shockingly stupid what is your problem? Listen jagoff, I dont care if you thought his show was “reality” or not. It would’nt surprise me, you obviously haven’t received any invitations from MENSA. I have a great idea. Instead of wasting your time commenting on internet blogs, why not find a job? Granted you have zero qualifications and even less marketability bit you can always tell them what a tuff internet warrior you are. I mean wow, what a bada%@, I am cowering in your brilliance and greatness. Imagine how awesome you will be when you actually touch female genitalia! Wow, I can only imagine.

          • Jake77

            “Dude…, shockingly stupid, jagoff, find a job, zero qualifications, less marketability, actually touch female…” How amazing you are, you figured all that out without any apparent evidence. Are all MENSA people as smart as you? Rarely are so many words used to say so little of substance.

  • Harry Wookiee

    Does Ventura still make people call him ‘governor’ even though he’s been out of office for years?

    • Chris Petree

      Politicians retain their title after leaving office. Gary Johnson and Mitt Romney also kept their Governor titles despite no longer being governors.

    • Thorley Winston

      Ventura AFAIK doesn’t “make” people call him anything but it is a traditional honorific for someone who held political office to still be referred to by their title. Even though I didn’t vote for him, he was still our governor and deserves the respect of the title just like Arnie Carlson, Al Quie, Wendell Anderson and Tim Pawlenty.

    • Obsidiandog

      “Douchebag” lasts forever and is appropriate in any situation.

    • signalfire1

      It’s traditional to call someone by their title even after they leave office. All presidents are also called ‘Mr. President’ afterwards, too.

  • Scruff Face Sucks A$$

    Douche bag. Rot in hell.

    • Will Windham

      hahahaha

  • Richard_Wiggler

    Jesse Ventura is a come guzzling gutter slut..

  • TexacannonBeliever

    Just curious, but what has he contributed to the country? To be more plain, ‘ what did Ventura bring to the party’? He was governor. Did he make a significant difference in the state? Was his state better because he served? Has the suit ‘revived’ his TV career? At the end of the day, what did he gain from the lawsuit? He sued a dead man and his widow, and how does that make him look in the court of public opinion? Did he walk away with a big bag of money? The article seems to indicate that the amount of money in that ‘bag’ may well depend on the future book sales. Not sure anyone made money except the lawyers! Just my opinion! Sad.

    • Thorley Winston

      As I see it he achieved at least two things:

      1) He just got a federal jury to rule that the claims made by Kyle that Ventura wished for his fellow Navy SEALs to die was a lie. This is a huge win for Ventura personally and professionally. Ventura claims that other veterans demanded that if the charges were false than he should fight them (otherwise he’s forever tarred as a veteran who wished for other veterans to be killed) and by getting his verdict, he’s restored an important part of his identity.

      2) He just got a verdict of $1.8 million which ain’t chump change.

      • Pat R

        Jesse Ventura was a Navy Seal. That’s what he brought to the country and he was defamed as admitted by the one who lied. What else is there to discuss?

    • signalfire1

      The lawsuit will be paid out of the publisher’s insurance money, who had a responsibility to be sure they weren’t publishing falsehoods (a simple check with the police in San Diego would have told them); they instead decided to go ahead with the publication and sent Kyle out to hawk the book, probably knowing he was prone to sensationalism and fabrications. And the book has made over 3 million so far, and the reported money for the movie deal was 8 million. No poor widows and orphans here, and they wouldn’t be a widow and without a father if Chris Kyle had left the therapy to the therapists. Let me know what you would do if someone lied in print about you and made over 10 million doing it.

  • Beavereater

    Hope some SEALS pay some D-bag an O-dark-hundred visit.

  • Allen Daniels

    JESSE VENTURA IS A TOTAL AZZHAT DOUCHE. Now come sue me for defamation you pig!

    • Bill Bradsky

      Considering that no one gives a crap what you have to say, he probably won’t.

      • Allen Daniels

        Sure, just like you.

    • AdviceKrugman

      Your statement is clearly not a false assertion of fact. Thus, it’s obviously opinion and not defamation. ;)

  • Brain Housing Unit

    Now do the right thing Ventura; donate that money to the Navy and Marine Corps Relief Society…

  • Stan

    Only one way out, Ventura… donate all that money to Wounded Warriors, DAV, or some such similar operation. And WHO do you think you are kidding? Your TV show selling ridiculous conspiracy theories was total crap and you were finished long before Kyle’s book came out.

  • Kellel

    Use that money to run in 2016!

  • Rick20033

    I have been aware of this story, but never really followed it. Can someone who followed the story tell me, if there were 11 witnesses presented by the defense who told a “compelling and consistent story” that backed Kyle’s account, on what basis did the jury dismiss their testimony?

    • signalfire1

      All the witnesses were soused at the time, including the ‘best’ witness who claimed he saw the whole thing but had had at least 15 drinks and had to call Kyle up after the story broke to ‘get the details right’. Every other witness said they only saw a part of the alleged altercation, and when JV’s lawyers put up a map of the bar, the patio and the sidewalk outside, each witness placed the incident in a different location. Also, although Kyle said in the book that ‘tables flew’ he testified in his deposition that that never happened. And he wrote in the book that ‘the police were there so he ran away’ but no police report was ever filed. Neither was Ventura photographed in the days that followed with any bruises, although some people said he hit his head on the sidewalk and didn’t get up…he was on blood thinners for a hip replacement and would have been a mess from any incident like that whatsoever.

      Ventura gave Kyle ample opportunity to retract his statement since he was admitting to battery, a felony, and it never happened. Kyle by that time was too far gone into the lie and couldn’t man up and admit he was just making stuff up, as usual for him. He also was known to say that he and another sniper went to the King Dome after Katrina and ‘shot 30 looters’, and that he killed two carjackers down in Texas, an incident denied by every sheriff in the area. In short, Kyle was proven to be a liar and by putting the ‘Scruff Face’ claim in the book, and then saying it was JV during the Opie and Anthony Show and also the Bill O’Reilly show, he demolished JV’s reputation with the younger seals who believed it.

      Now if only the people who have been badmouthing JV for two years now would man up and admit they were wrong.

      • Rick20033

        Thanks for giving me the backstReplyory.

  • Dnalor Ettam

    The bottom line is that Chris Kyle lied and then put it in print and then backed it up on Opus and Andy. He later admitted it was not true. They had a chance to retract the story and chose not to.

    There are much lager questions:
    How in the hell was Chris Kyle killed at one of the largest Gun Ranges in the US in TX of all places in broad day-lite with no witnesses?

    There were at least 6 official statements as to the circumstances of the killing ….

    Why was Craft International ALL OVER the Boston Bombing whearing hats and backpacks (official descrpts of the suspects)

    Why does the overwhelming majority of the comments use words like asshat and douche?????

    ARE YOU 12 YEARS OLD……OR ARE YOU A FAKE BOT SCRIPT!

    The bottom line is that Kyle was ordered to discredit Ventura and ALL of you had better be asking WHY ……Free Country my ASS!

    • Will Windham

      good points. The news of the murder of Chris Kyle was short lived. Too short lived. Yes it was a murder-suicide. But how did such a tragedy escalate? I would like to know details, such as the ‘details’ Chris Kyle used to describe his story in Iraq

      • signalfire1

        What murder-suicide? The report was that he took a psychotic veteran to a gun range along with a friend (Chad Littlefield) and the third guy shot them both twice (funny how that happens when both men were so well trained); the shooter has admitted to it. Unless you want to put the spin on it that Kyle got his friend killed and then handing a gun to a psychotic who was out of touch with reality was suicide. That’s a possibility…. :-/

  • Obsidiandog

    You would think that it would be almost impossible to defame a guy with the ‘reputation’ Ventura has. It would be hard to “out-Jesse” Jesse. But now his reputation is beyond repair and it’s too late to fix it.

  • bjeweled21 .

    I am thrilled for Jesse. Someone lied…BIG time and admitted to it. That lie caused an upstanding man a lot of heartache and his reputation as a SEAL. Jesse is once again considering a run for the presidency. Can you think of a better avenue to disgrace him? Who ever paid or blackmailed Kyle, after his book was published, to involve Jesse into the scheme of things…is the one who killed Kyle. Dead men don’t talk.

    • songofdeb1

      You are spot on! Thank you for some common sense in the sea of idiocy I have been reading on other sites!

  • LocalHero

    I could care less if a couple of hired mercenaries or, in the case of the SEALS, an organization of hired murderers gets “defamed.” They should all be tried for war crimes and hanged.

    • John

      You are an ignorant moron. And in no way whatsoever, a “Local Hero”

  • oldskoolsoldier

    Ventura was just defending himself. It wasn’t about the money for him, it was about clearing his name by the courts. The Kyle family is worth way more than $1.8 million already, not to mention Clint Eastwood is directing a movie about him that is sure to bring a steady cash flow into the Kyle family, so other than the fact that Mrs. Kyle lost her husband, I don’t feel sorry that she lost 1.8 million.

    • Bill Bradsky

      To a guy like Ventura, that money is chump change. You’re right, it was about clearing his name.

    • EffexZoxStyle

      the only thing you’re not correct about is the fact that she won’t pay much, most of the money will be paid by the book’s insurance company.

  • Bill Bradsky

    It’s easy for me to believe that some drunk sailor heard someone else wrong and threw a punch. I had my own brother almost do so once because he thought I insulted his wife, when I actually had paid her a compliment. This guy took it one step further by continuing his lunacy in written form and publishing it.

    • Brian Bradford

      It’s easy to believe a drunk washed up bitter old man would say something stupid to a younger, more decorated young man as well.

      • Bill Bradsky

        Yeah, except for the fact that younger guys have more of a tendency toward bravado and smack talk in general. I don’t really care either way, but the court decided in Ventura’s favor, so it’s likely that the accusation was false, especially because Ventura is ex-Navy too. Remember that Kyle claimed to have knocked Ventura out with one punch, so we know he initiated the confrontation, if one existed at all in the first place. Ventura was in the public eye at the time, and Kyle likely saw in him an easy target to defame for his book promotion. Do a quick lookup of Ventura’s various careers. You couldn’t qualify any period of his life as “washed up” for which he would be bitter. The dude’s been successful at every single thing he’s tried.

        • smacca

          If it were true he never would have gone on with a law suit. He’s not that stupid. He was a governor, and if he were knocked out by someone in a bar (that ran away?) he certainly would have called the cops. I guess the fantasy to have some kind of “war hero” trumps any reality or fairness.

      • signalfire1

        Not when we’ve got hours of JV on tape never saying any such thing. And we’ve got friends of Chris Kyle saying he told them things happened (shooting 30 people at the King Dome after Katrina, and two carjackers in Texas) which have been proven to be fabrications. In one interview, even his wife said he made stuff up all the time. On the stand, however, she said he ‘would never lie’. Guess it runs in the family. JV has been accused of doing this for the money, but he’s made millions over his career and still comes out with regular books. He didn’t want to go ahead with it, but his friends convinced him he had to clear his reputation. Trouble is, with the hatred you see aimed at him in these comments, that will never happen because the haters will never admit they were wrong in choosing sides. Imagine that; hero worship of mass murderers trumps an honorable man.

      • http://www.pixelgeddon.com/ Shane Stevens

        Then shouldn’t it be just as easy to believe that several people from the bar in question, including its owner, said that Chris Kyle made the whole thing up, people who were in attendance on the day in question?

  • r3VOLution is not republican

    Good news for Venture and GREAT NEWS for the TRUTHFUL NEW media, as it becomes the mainstream.

    Strolling through the MS(republican)M comment threads – Blaze, Hotair, Townhall, WND, etc – I noticed the “regulars” are DESPERATELY trying to smear Ventura. All without an OUNCE of logic or rational thought… just childish name-calling. BUT…. there are MANY, MANY supportive commenters TOO, these days… WHO ARE NOT CONTROLLED BY REPUBLICAN PROPAGANDA MEMES of Jesse in spandex and screaming “I SUE WIDOWS,” and have gotten their news from sources OTHER THAN the dying MS(republican)M and MS(democrat)M.

    This thread, although NOT MS(republican)M, is a good example. Notice the ANTI-Ventura voices HAVE NOTHING but gossip, threats and name-calling.

    • Ned Weatherby

      I saw some of that too. Funny thing – if I wrote in a book that I kicked Glen Beck’s ass in a bar for badmouthing (insert term), Glen Beck then offered me the chance to retract the defamatory comments and I declined, and Beck then sued me for defamation, how does that make me, the liar, the good guy?

      That kinda sums up what I heard. Incidentally, I did read Kyle’s book.

  • hereIstand

    Jesse had some great ideas as governor here in MN. I voted for him. His biggest downfall was that he spent most of his time howling over how the media was out to ruin his reputation and crying over the fact that both Republicans and Democrats were ganging up to stall every good plan he had. As a result, he never got a damn thing accomplished. He never seemed to realize that his big, fat mouth ruined his reputation and governorship long before the media or anyone else got the chance. I like his politics; I hate the diaper rash his personality gives me.

    • https://www.youtube.com/user/kilroy238 Kilroy238

      He was right to complain. Those idiots sitting on both sides of the house have been lame ducks for years.

      • hereIstand

        No doubt, but if you don’t persist in eloquently selling your message, and only engage in boo-hooing, you’re just another lame duck.

        • https://www.youtube.com/user/kilroy238 Kilroy238

          You can only sell things to people willing to buy my friend.

  • Callahan2211

    Ventura/Snowden 2016

  • idahobob

    Pussy

  • songofdeb1

    Great article! I stand with Jesse!

  • Charles Yow

    Screw Jesse Ventura. He sued the estate of a dead American hero who was helping a veteran with PTSD when he was murdered. The only thing this dead hero left his family was his legacy of honor and the profits from his book and now Ventura is taking food out of their mouths and their college educations away. Real american hero there Jesse.

    • signalfire1

      No, for the umpteenth time, Ventura sued the multimillion dollar estate, and the publisher’s insurance company will pay the vast majority of the fine; it was up to them to vet the claims made in the book and a simple phone call to the San Diego police department would have cleared up that no police call that night to that bar ever happened. Ventura sued a liar, in other words. Not the first time Kyle lied, he lied about killing two carjackers down in Texas and he lied about going to New Orleans after Katrina and killing 30 looters. Kyle lied a lot, only this time he lied on camera about someone who could defend himself, and did. He also lied about committing a felony against Ventura, which is what battery is. When given ample chance by Ventura to admit to the lie, Kyle wasn’t man enough to do it. So the ‘poor widow’ you’re all worried about was married to a mass murdering liar, and okay with that.

    • darkness

      Hero? Heroes are men to be looked up to. A man that constantly lied about how he punches and murders people is not a hero. A man that brags about killing is not a hero. And legacy of honor? What honor is there in lies and blood? There is none. The American people just have fallen in love with decadence.

      And taking food out of their mouths? What a joke. Not only is insurance paying Jesse, The family has made over $6 million from the book alone. His family wont starve. At worst they would lose out on a 2nd summer cottage purchased from illicit funds.

  • ThatGuy

    I know this story is a touch old but didn’t Jesse start the Lawsuit before Kyle’s death? Isn’t that how they had recorded testimony from Kyle during the trial? The following quote makes it sound like he only started the trial after his death. Just food for thought for the writer.

    “Chris Kyle was killed last year at a Texas gun range, when another
    service member suffering from PTSD turned his weapon on Kyle. After the
    death, Ventura moved forward with the defamation suit against Kyle’s
    widow, Taya Kyle, as the defendant.”

    • Bill Bradsky

      I think the actual court case was filed post mortem. I had heard the same thing though, so maybe they were in settlement negotiations and before those came to fruition Kyle was killed. Just speculation on my part though.